Strategic Airlines
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large scale commercial operations
Maybe compared to a GA outfit, which is what they really are, but with bigger aircraft.
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This site is hilarious!!.. “Ethics, honesty and scruples”.. ARE YOU GUYS SERIOUS??
Gentlemen, this is aviation!. You’re either delusional or suffering the extreme effects of hypoxia!!.. Strategic is not doing anything that QF, Alliance, Rex, Skytrans, Virgin or Skywest have done in the past or are currently doing now. To believe otherwise, is to show an EXTRAORDINARY level of naivety. … I’ve never seen such an inept concentration of blah, blah, blah.
And Friggit, I’m not entirely interested in your opinion, but please tell me.. What exactly is “immoral” about hiring staff from organisations that may be of commercial advantage?. It’s the most BASIC of business principles… So much for your “credentials” hey?
Also, first post = something to hide. Is that even a rational comment?
Prune is obviously for self praising, ill-informed, armchair critics that have too much time on their hands…. Does anyone actually read this stuff?
For the record, I’m not employed by Strategic, I’ve never been employed by them and I’m not likely to be in the future.
Anyway, I’ve got more important things to do than waste my time here… but thank you for the laugh!
Gentlemen, this is aviation!. You’re either delusional or suffering the extreme effects of hypoxia!!.. Strategic is not doing anything that QF, Alliance, Rex, Skytrans, Virgin or Skywest have done in the past or are currently doing now. To believe otherwise, is to show an EXTRAORDINARY level of naivety. … I’ve never seen such an inept concentration of blah, blah, blah.
And Friggit, I’m not entirely interested in your opinion, but please tell me.. What exactly is “immoral” about hiring staff from organisations that may be of commercial advantage?. It’s the most BASIC of business principles… So much for your “credentials” hey?
Also, first post = something to hide. Is that even a rational comment?
Prune is obviously for self praising, ill-informed, armchair critics that have too much time on their hands…. Does anyone actually read this stuff?
For the record, I’m not employed by Strategic, I’ve never been employed by them and I’m not likely to be in the future.
Anyway, I’ve got more important things to do than waste my time here… but thank you for the laugh!
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Originally Posted by vertigo
Strategic is not doing anything that QF, Alliance, Rex, Skytrans, Virgin or Skywest have done in the past or are currently doing now.
Um, I suspect this has a different meaning to that which you intended...
Are you implying/stating Strategic does not fly aircraft?
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Vertigo it's not the fact they hire certain staff that I consider immoral ,it's the way they do it but then you wouldn't know because you don't work or have anything to do with SA which probably explains your unimformed opinions. It wasn't only their hiring practices I was critising but also some of their business practices but then again because by your own admission you are not at SA you therefore can't really comment. Re your first post comments,yes if you are trying to hide your real identity. You seem to spend a lot of time on PPrune and give its content much credance for a site you mock and critisise but if it entertains you I glad to keep you occupied. Better go I got all my How to succeed in business books to read .
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Prune is obviously for self praising, ill-informed, armchair critics that have too much time on their hands…. Does anyone actually read this stuff?
Oh, der, Mr. Vertigo ---- you do.
And post No. 140, question in second paragraph ---- still waiting for an answer!!!!
For those that were not paying attention, they bought the OzJet AOC to gain access to Curtin and Denpasar, but OzJet was already broke, and had a 'show cause' from CASA that would have grounded them had not the aircraft all been impounded for various reasons anyway. Ozjet was r00ted, so the Strategic business plan was curious, to say the least. There was a certain amount of snivelling on promises to former OzJet staff. It is all documented here in other threads if you want to do a search.
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There was a certain amount of snivelling on promises to former OzJet staff
so the Strategic business plan was curious, to say the least
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Regulatory Capture
Of interest is the recent Strategic AOC audit conducted by CASA. The audit took 1 week to conduct and finished on a Friday. On the Saturday and Sunday following, not 12 hours later the members of the CASA audit team went sailing with the CEO of SA, all together on a CASA inspectors sloop. The involved CASA inspectors are also mates with the SA Chief Pilot. And, it gets worse, all this was done under the approval of the CASA Brisbane Field Office Manager.
So for those who do not think any links exist between CASA and SA, think again. The CASA Director and Board leave a lot to be desired when it comes to defining the line in the sand between operator and regulator.All this has taken place under the nose the government and is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to activities of the regulator. I think it may be time for a royal commission into the deplorable and immoral activities of a government department completely out of control and above the law.
So for those who do not think any links exist between CASA and SA, think again. The CASA Director and Board leave a lot to be desired when it comes to defining the line in the sand between operator and regulator.All this has taken place under the nose the government and is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to activities of the regulator. I think it may be time for a royal commission into the deplorable and immoral activities of a government department completely out of control and above the law.
Dodo,
As I said before, if you want the history and the dirt, search prune and ye shall find.
As for Auditee sailing with Auditor. A new version of Stockholm Syndrome, perhaps?
As I said before, if you want the history and the dirt, search prune and ye shall find.
As for Auditee sailing with Auditor. A new version of Stockholm Syndrome, perhaps?
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Whoopee do...they went out (if it's even true) AFTER the audit. Who gives a toss. You think the CASA staff aren't professionals and act accordingly.
The OZ Aviation scene is so small that the all the guys in both companies have probably known each other for 20 years.
The OZ Aviation scene is so small that the all the guys in both companies have probably known each other for 20 years.
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Air Boss Grilling
Ex the Business (City Beat) Section of The Courier Mail today:
Courier Mail- CITY BEAT: Thursday, 21 October 2010
with James McCullough
Air boss grilling
FAILED Brisbane businessman David Charlton is finally set to front a court today to face questions about the $93 million collapse of his SkyAirWorld airline last year.
Charlton is expected to turn over documents and could take the stand during the public examination in Brisbane Magistrates Court overseen by company liquidator Peter Lucas.
About five other key figures will also be grilled during the hearings, which continue on November 5 and December 1. Lucas has said he will be probing allegations of insolvent trading, intercompany transactions, unfair preference payments, uncommercial deals and the roles of shadow directors.
About 150 workers lost their jobs when Brisbane-based SkyAirWorld fell over in April 2009, leaving more than 420 unsecured creditors. Charlton, an army reservist, also remains at the centre of a Defence Department investigation into allegations he may have improperly influenced an $US80 million tender to fly troops to the Middle East.
Remember what he said to City Beat in October 2006 – he was confident his airline would not go down the path of other players such as OzJet, Compass, etc, predicting “we will be flying in 15 years’ time”.
with James McCullough
Air boss grilling
FAILED Brisbane businessman David Charlton is finally set to front a court today to face questions about the $93 million collapse of his SkyAirWorld airline last year.
Charlton is expected to turn over documents and could take the stand during the public examination in Brisbane Magistrates Court overseen by company liquidator Peter Lucas.
About five other key figures will also be grilled during the hearings, which continue on November 5 and December 1. Lucas has said he will be probing allegations of insolvent trading, intercompany transactions, unfair preference payments, uncommercial deals and the roles of shadow directors.
About 150 workers lost their jobs when Brisbane-based SkyAirWorld fell over in April 2009, leaving more than 420 unsecured creditors. Charlton, an army reservist, also remains at the centre of a Defence Department investigation into allegations he may have improperly influenced an $US80 million tender to fly troops to the Middle East.
Remember what he said to City Beat in October 2006 – he was confident his airline would not go down the path of other players such as OzJet, Compass, etc, predicting “we will be flying in 15 years’ time”.
Watchdog,
What dodgybrothers said: 'no they are not [professional].'
In fact, the reported conduct of the CASA personnel seems so far removed from the minimum standards of ethical conduct expected in such circumstances that it's a total disgrace.
Perhaps you don't understand that in any audit, ethical requirements are required to be met by auditors to provide a reasonable assurance of their independence, and to ensure that the conduct of auditors will not increase what's termed 'familiarity threat' to an unacceptable level where true independence is no longer assured?
The reported conduct of the CASA personnel in this case sounds like they completely failed to meet, understand, or possibly deliberately ignored, the relevant ethical requirements reasonably expected of them.
Whatever, and if what's reported to have happened is in fact true, then the senior management of CASA (oxymoron??) should take immediate and appropriate action to address the organisation's lack of policies or procedures that resulted in such a breach of ethics.
Past performance tells me that it won't though.
What dodgybrothers said: 'no they are not [professional].'
In fact, the reported conduct of the CASA personnel seems so far removed from the minimum standards of ethical conduct expected in such circumstances that it's a total disgrace.
Perhaps you don't understand that in any audit, ethical requirements are required to be met by auditors to provide a reasonable assurance of their independence, and to ensure that the conduct of auditors will not increase what's termed 'familiarity threat' to an unacceptable level where true independence is no longer assured?
The reported conduct of the CASA personnel in this case sounds like they completely failed to meet, understand, or possibly deliberately ignored, the relevant ethical requirements reasonably expected of them.
Whatever, and if what's reported to have happened is in fact true, then the senior management of CASA (oxymoron??) should take immediate and appropriate action to address the organisation's lack of policies or procedures that resulted in such a breach of ethics.
Past performance tells me that it won't though.
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Action - I guess they would, if they needed to.
The 'report" coms from a bloke who shares a name with a blood sucking worm. He just changes the spelling a bit to hide his true intension in aviation, just like he changed his pprune handle from heavy cargo to his new one. He should become a jurno, he has all the skills.
Ever since casa found him flying an unairworthy DC3 while un-rated on the thing, which nearly killed a bunch of unsuspecting kids, he has had it in for casa. I reckon theyll be just laughing at him in Canberra. Most in aviation just laugh at him, except people like my ozjet mates who got sucked dry by him. Hope he doesn't suck dry those nice folk over at Air Naru.
I reckon he'd be better sitting in on his mates court case mentioned above to learn what his is gunna be like, as soon as Shell, some boys in New Ginnea and the tax man catch up with him. One posiive - they can both share the same soap.
The 'report" coms from a bloke who shares a name with a blood sucking worm. He just changes the spelling a bit to hide his true intension in aviation, just like he changed his pprune handle from heavy cargo to his new one. He should become a jurno, he has all the skills.
Ever since casa found him flying an unairworthy DC3 while un-rated on the thing, which nearly killed a bunch of unsuspecting kids, he has had it in for casa. I reckon theyll be just laughing at him in Canberra. Most in aviation just laugh at him, except people like my ozjet mates who got sucked dry by him. Hope he doesn't suck dry those nice folk over at Air Naru.
I reckon he'd be better sitting in on his mates court case mentioned above to learn what his is gunna be like, as soon as Shell, some boys in New Ginnea and the tax man catch up with him. One posiive - they can both share the same soap.