Vertigo it's not the fact they hire certain staff that I consider immoral ,it's the way they do it but then you wouldn't know because you don't work or have anything to do with SA which probably explains your unimformed opinions. It wasn't only their hiring practices I was critising but also some of their business practices but then again because by your own admission you are not at SA you therefore can't really comment. Re your first post comments,yes if you are trying to hide your real identity. You seem to spend a lot of time on PPrune and give its content much credance for a site you mock and critisise but if it entertains you I glad to keep you occupied. Better go I got all my How to succeed in business books to read .