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Old 17th Aug 2010, 06:54
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Labor Party aviation policy.

I understand Labor Party Policy on aviation is, wait for it...... "The White Paper".

That's it, nothing else. In other words,............. they don't have a policy!

This is certainly nothing to encourage the bottom end of aviation in Australia to continue to be the grass roots of regular public transport.
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Old 17th Aug 2010, 07:49
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Well whats the Lib's policy? And will it be any change?? I dont think Abbot gives a ****e either.... and considering "work choices" and the attempted crushing of unions by the liberal party, id dare say the lesser of two evils is one that invests and gives back to more than big business.
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Where have you been for the last three years, Jibba Jabba?
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Where have you been for the last three years, Jibba Jabba?
It appears in a coma !!
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I wont be voting Labor...the sooner that Albanese turkey is ousted and leaves our jumpseat alone the better.
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I wont be voting Labor...the sooner that Albanese turkey is ousted and leaves our jumpseat alone the better.
So it's fine for the future of GA to be ignored as long as you can keep the jump seat occupied. Is that your main worry Flava Saver?
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Who has ever had a positive policy for GA in the last , hmm 4 decades?, no one!
Its easy to whinge about GA they all did when I was there but I made a good salary in GA through selective choices not jumping for the next best aircraft. I suspect it is similar today!
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Paulg, thanks for your question, but no thats not my main concern. My main concern (at present) is wanting to protect Australian pilot jobs, ala 23rd August.

Both political parties are as useless as each other.
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Old 17th Aug 2010, 12:27
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If Albanese looses Grandyler then it is likely the Greens will win it. And the policy they have on aviation (as it is written on the junk mail in my letter box) is to CLOSE Sydney Airport.
Out of the fry pan into the fire.
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Bvgger the Libs.

The Libs tried to reduce pilots to a low-priced toothless commodity. At least under Labor we have regained some ability to fight for improvement in pay and conditions. I'm sick of the Libs and their view of non-business professionals. Aviation policies don't count for much if your being payed a pittance or worked to exhaustion. The big issue for pilots at present is to organise into or join an unified and strong representative body. Instead of selling our skills cheaply, fight for some restoration of conditios and pay. Otherwise flying careers will continue to become more and more expensive to 'buy' and and less and less lucrative to keep. How you vote for government is only part of the story.
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Which party was in power in 1989?
Which ex Trades Union leader was its Prime Minister?
Answers on a postcard, please.
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I’m voting for the party that Dick doesn’t support!
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Who has ever had a positive policy for GA in the last , hmm 4 decades?,
John Sharp, who was minister of aviation at one stage
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Old 18th Aug 2010, 03:48
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Neither party gives a ****e about Aviation.

Labor's white paper is not even toilet paper.

The Coalition gifted GA with Airport Privatisation.

The greens just want to kill aviation and have us all ride mass transit.

In the age of populist agendas, there is little between either party.
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Old 18th Aug 2010, 03:49
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Labor introduced "Work Choices" in 89. Sign a contract or don't work at all.

GA will be decimated if the Greens get the balance of power. Can't have those noisy and carbon polluting airyplanes disturbing the balance now can we?

That great think tank of Melb Uni came out with a zero emissions plan by 2020 beyondzeroemissions.org. Problem is, one of the conditions it specifies that "all domestic air and shipping is moved to electric rail". Wanna keep your job? And they claim the plan will generate 80'000 new jobs!.

Mind you I'm not too keen on the LNP's aviation policy either because I don't know what it is and apparently neither do they.
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As has been said here doesn't matter whom you vote for as aviation in general doesn't figure too much in any one particular party. As long as the regulators are seen to be doing their job in the eyes of the Govt we are way back down the list of priorities. There's just not enough people in our industry to make a difference stand alone.
I remember '89 very well & whom was in power & whom was in bed with whom so they would be the last people I would vote for. Labor are rat cunning,always have been. The previous Libs where tough, tough on all of us ( I don't deny that at all) to the point where we (well the majority anyway) threw them out & for what?..............a country that's in all sorts of trouble & remember boys & girls who was standing right behind "cardboard Kev" when he was wrecking our country? Ms 'BARON' !

The only part of aviation the Govt knows is it's 'on tap' flying carpet which WE pay for dearly! I used to fly around pollies in another life, talk about waste!

Aviation as we know it will struggle on no matter whom is at the helm but I do hope that the people of Oz has had enuf of the 'rats' & say so next Sat!
Good luck to all of us, we are gunna need it for the future!
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Old 18th Aug 2010, 05:26
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68+iou1;

Strange handle mate.

I’m voting for the party that Dick doesn’t support!
God help Australia with "donkey" votes by the likes of this genius.
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Old 18th Aug 2010, 06:11
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Frank,

In reference to 68+iou1, the 'wonder-boy' of Australian aviation, in my opinion, has caused more division and lost more traction for GA than would otherwise have been the case. That's my opinion; do you remember the 'user pays' mantra and 'free in G?' Where, exactly, did that get GA?

For the benefit of those who refer to the '89 issue, that was not about GA. We are mixing two issues here that are not related. Was there collusion? I think there was. But to link 89 to the demise of GA is a pretty pretty thin argument.

Yes, Frank, I appreciate that '89 was not part of your argument. Others raised it, hence the response.

I cannot reply to all; but Walley Mk2, are you seriously telling me that the amiable dolt from the electorate of Gwydir, or his successor as leader of a rump party, have half a clue, or did anything for GA?

Please list their achievements with respect to GA.
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This from todays press release from the Coalition;

A Coalition Government will also seek to make Australia a global leader in flight training. The Trade
Representative for Services, to be appointed by a new Coalition Government and the Australian Trade
Commission, will be tasked to promote Australia’s pilot training services around the world.
Australia is one of the best places in the world to learn to fly and obtain skills in the aviation industry.
The Coalition will build on this by seeking to enhance Commonwealth loan assistance for commercial
pilot training. Australia has highly professional aviation sector and a Coalition Government will keep it
that way.
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Old 18th Aug 2010, 08:12
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"How" it's not about listing anything to prove a point. None of the parties have done much for aviation but my opinions (& that's what they are) of the Labor party is what I believe,right or wrong "I" won't vote for the party whom I believe has wrecked this country.

GA & the Airlines, at the end of the day we are all one. The two levels are just part of a ladder, a ladder that you either climb to the top or stay at a level/rung that suits you. Both get little help from either Govt these days.


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