YBBN RWY14/32 Closure
Has anybody asked the Cairns refueler what's going on?
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Yes i have always wondered about a 14 missed approach and 01 takeoff .I understand in daylight a early right turn inside 01-19 would be in order.
Last night from 6pm-9pm with wind under 10 knots everything was landing 01 and taking off 01.After 9pm a few prop landers landed 32 however they then had to make sure the 01 landers were on the runway so they sequenced the 32 over fly's with either altitude if they were crossing the 01-19 runway from the north, or distance with the down wind, to avoid any possible conflict with the traffic on 01 in case of a go around for the 01 traffic.
Last night from 6pm-9pm with wind under 10 knots everything was landing 01 and taking off 01.After 9pm a few prop landers landed 32 however they then had to make sure the 01 landers were on the runway so they sequenced the 32 over fly's with either altitude if they were crossing the 01-19 runway from the north, or distance with the down wind, to avoid any possible conflict with the traffic on 01 in case of a go around for the 01 traffic.
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19/14 CROPS has been suspended UFN, as of yesterday arvo. Apparently the risk was assessed as too high, and only one of the CB Managers had the authority to sign off on the risk, which he refused to do.
01/14 and 01/32 will be available during daylight hours only.
The rumour is that AsA want the airlines to accept some of the risk for CROPS to resume.
For all you turoprops heading north it might be a good idea to start accepting 5kts of DW off 32, and save some delays!
Of course, a single runway for arrivals is going to start throwing up some big delays. 37 minutes of holding last night for some arrivals.
No end in sight at this stage.
01/14 and 01/32 will be available during daylight hours only.
The rumour is that AsA want the airlines to accept some of the risk for CROPS to resume.
For all you turoprops heading north it might be a good idea to start accepting 5kts of DW off 32, and save some delays!
Of course, a single runway for arrivals is going to start throwing up some big delays. 37 minutes of holding last night for some arrivals.
No end in sight at this stage.
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P-Dubby,
you are correct that delays are primarily affecting arrivals.
However, the more acft that depart off the secondary rwy will reduce pressure on 19. It is not unusual to be 8 or 10 deep at the holding point during the morning and afternoon peaks.
you are correct that delays are primarily affecting arrivals.
However, the more acft that depart off the secondary rwy will reduce pressure on 19. It is not unusual to be 8 or 10 deep at the holding point during the morning and afternoon peaks.
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Short answer- yes.
At the moment AsA holds all the risk, and therefore responsibility if something goes wrong. If the airlines sign up to the procedure, then AsA abrogates its responsibility, and therefore its liability.
It all about the money, oh and safety of course!!
At the moment AsA holds all the risk, and therefore responsibility if something goes wrong. If the airlines sign up to the procedure, then AsA abrogates its responsibility, and therefore its liability.
It all about the money, oh and safety of course!!
On one hand they say traffic has slowed while the other hand brings in the $150 movement fee on the 01st Oct due increased traffic!!
Supposed to encourage arrivals / departures outside the peak periods.
Supposed to encourage arrivals / departures outside the peak periods.
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Last Tuesday there were 12 awaiting 19 departures at 0940am.9 holding for full length and 2 QFlink Q400'S and a Brindabella J41 holding at Alpha 3 intersection.
With over 600 movements on the busy days and up to nearly 50 in the peak hours aircraft movements are skyrocketing. Pax figures are now increasing at 7.5% growth for past 3 months .The decline they were talking about has now ended.
With over 600 movements on the busy days and up to nearly 50 in the peak hours aircraft movements are skyrocketing. Pax figures are now increasing at 7.5% growth for past 3 months .The decline they were talking about has now ended.
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I wonder if BAC are rueing this short sighted decision?
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Cute. A particularly apt description for the maze of shipping-containers that have been doing temporary duties 
I asked if it was called that because it was for Common People (when you look at the airlines that use it) and received a bit of a death stare in return
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I asked if it was called that because it was for Common People (when you look at the airlines that use it) and received a bit of a death stare in return
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Everything appears to have changed again Monday.During daylight hours 14 or 32 is being used again as well as 01 however all traffic on 01 is now doing ILS approaches and no longer visual river track from the north.I assume this gives the tower controller a better idea of conflicting traffic on 14 or 32 and allows for better visual separations????
All i know is some suburbs have alot more traffic all of a sudden and others none.
All i know is some suburbs have alot more traffic all of a sudden and others none.
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tourismman, not quite correct. 01 and 14 or 32 can be used for CROPS during daylight hours. The reason that they are on the ILS has to do with the weather, not CROPS. There are new determinations on cloud base as to when they have to be nominated. It has recently gone from a 2500' to 4000' for 01. With all the dodgy weather we have been having there has been lots of ILS. Having said that 19 was the runway of the day today!
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thanks for the info p-dubby.
interesting that after about 45mins things are at a guess, as you're now required to get a slot time as far out as 360nm during 2000-1200 utc.
interesting that after about 45mins things are at a guess, as you're now required to get a slot time as far out as 360nm during 2000-1200 utc.
