Merged: Pacific Blue infringement in NZQN?
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Yes.. on both.. specific ground and Computer based training course and a course of simulator training, just like all the other part 121 jet operators that fly in and out of ZQN. As well as final check to line to operate into that port with a flight examiner..
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TV 3
a normal 737 departure out of ZQN involved climbing to 10,000' in a matter of seconds
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Sounds like Campbell Live are going the whole hog on it tonight, sim re-enactment and account from thought-I-was-going-to-die passenger on this flight. Flight of DEAAAAAAAAATH.
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Here's John Campbell's piece...
Relive the infamous Pacific Blue flight out of Queenstown - Campbell Live - Video - 3 News
Relive the infamous Pacific Blue flight out of Queenstown - Campbell Live - Video - 3 News
Oh my god that's some of the worst reporting I have ever seen? I only watched the first minute or so?
That sim guy must extremely pissed off with himself when he watches that? He's not typed on the A/c, not trained in Queenstown and has no idea about much!!
The reporter, very disappointing no research what so ever TV3 you sure made cocks of yourselves over that!!
That sim guy must extremely pissed off with himself when he watches that? He's not typed on the A/c, not trained in Queenstown and has no idea about much!!
The reporter, very disappointing no research what so ever TV3 you sure made cocks of yourselves over that!!
Love the comment "Visibility was reported at 32km, is that enough?", Sim idiot "It's enough on a normal day to go flying but you need a bit more than that to get out of Queenstown, we can't even see the end of Lake Wakatipu"
What the F..k!
What an idiot!
If I was PB I'd being suing TV3 for the embarrassment! and the aero club sim guy!
What the F..k!
What an idiot!
If I was PB I'd being suing TV3 for the embarrassment! and the aero club sim guy!
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According to the reporter the sim guy "is a trained pilot", whats the bet not on the 73? Wonder if that 'interesting' takeoff was requested by tv3 to exaggerate the 'im going to die' story 
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A google search revealed a 'Liam Brown' that holds a PPL passed in 03.
http://www.northshoreaeroclub.co.nz/...nts_to2007.pdf (page 6).
Must have taken him years. I mean having to wait weeks on end to get a day with 32kms vis to go flying must have been a killer
http://www.northshoreaeroclub.co.nz/...nts_to2007.pdf (page 6).
Must have taken him years. I mean having to wait weeks on end to get a day with 32kms vis to go flying must have been a killer
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What sort of departure ... the "Home sick angel 1 dep"
Accel to the Bricks along the lake...... then stand it on the tail in thrust until above terrain.
Have to agree, terrible reporting. wouldnt blame the young bloke in the sim though, looks like he was set up to me.
Accel to the Bricks along the lake...... then stand it on the tail in thrust until above terrain.
Have to agree, terrible reporting. wouldnt blame the young bloke in the sim though, looks like he was set up to me.
Just for info for those unfamiliar with the non-rnp jet depatures out of NZQN;
The visual segment of the departure is to a different height each time depending on the weight of the a/c and the resulting ROC that could be achieved single engine.
From memory it's normally about 5600ft for a domestic departure. If an engine fails subsequent to this height you can continue the departure and go IMC and get the required terrain clearance. If you lose one prior to this height you have to remain visual and return to land via the 'figure of 8' pattern. That is why you have the 30 mins prior to ECT requirment, you have to have time to do that maneuvring visually in the basin and get on the ground again. That is also why the met conditions have to have certain viz for the entire basin, not just where a normal departure would track.
This is for none-rnp departures, for all I know the crew were conducting an RNP departure and none of this applies to them. Can anyone say if PB are conducting RNP proceedures?
The visual segment of the departure is to a different height each time depending on the weight of the a/c and the resulting ROC that could be achieved single engine.
From memory it's normally about 5600ft for a domestic departure. If an engine fails subsequent to this height you can continue the departure and go IMC and get the required terrain clearance. If you lose one prior to this height you have to remain visual and return to land via the 'figure of 8' pattern. That is why you have the 30 mins prior to ECT requirment, you have to have time to do that maneuvring visually in the basin and get on the ground again. That is also why the met conditions have to have certain viz for the entire basin, not just where a normal departure would track.
This is for none-rnp departures, for all I know the crew were conducting an RNP departure and none of this applies to them. Can anyone say if PB are conducting RNP proceedures?