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Old 9th Jun 2010, 09:52
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Possible ground handling shake up at VB

Seems VB may be looking very closely following Tigers footsteps and going for a single ground agent. Agents were in Brisbane very recently and were supposedly told that JB is looking very closely at this option. It was hoped that this would result in a better overall deal for Virgin and lower costs as the prices some agents charge vary greatly.

Some agents were not very happy apparently..
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More on the rumour that it would likely be Aero Care sole handling as they already do a number of VB ports.
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one thing is for sure it will be low pay and very casual hours and split shifts.
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More on the rumour that it would likely be Aero Care sole handling as they already do a number of VB ports.
Apologies if this is a dumb question, but would that include big ports where Virgin currently employ their own ground handling people, or just smaller ports where they already use a contractor?
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i would think their own people are for the big A
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Ouch.....
You get the feeling that the big business of the future will consist of ten managers, one hundred ego stroking flunkies and no-one doing any actual work. The business won't actually produce anything but there'll be some great reports written.
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Apologies if this is a dumb question, but would that include big ports where Virgin currently employ their own ground handling people, or just smaller ports where they already use a contractor?
I heard PB/VB/TT will all be under Aerocare at Melbourne under the plan.

Its $20 an hour folks Should keep the troops in T2 happy
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I haven't heard anything about VB staffed ports, but could well happen in time I guess, AC already do PB & VAus at Melbourne anyway. I only heard about already contracted ports. Hopefully they do not get the shaft like the QF boys have over the last few years around the country side!

AC are one of the better handlers to work for, do value there staff somewhat more than others so I'm told, and pay better than most and take there staff away for weekends etc. Think AC pay around $22 hr these days. Talking to the boys at various other places / agents it seems to range from $16 - $22
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AC already do PB & VAus at Melbourne anyway
Aerocare do PB.

V Aus is handled by Toll/DNATA in MEL as they are at SYD & BNE too.
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Ah, sorry my mistake about V Aus. Yes you are right
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So what was the point of us voting in the new EBA and the new pay structure that starts employees on $16 odd an hour???

Back to baking for me then I guess
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16 an hour, where do I sign... Seriously that is a joke in this day and age!

I'm sure some Slobart bakeries will have you or maybe the McCafe
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$16 an hour these places are getting closer to there goal target which is have people work for free or even better have them pay a fee to work to the company.
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Well, why should ground staff be exempt? Pilots have been paying to work for quite a while now. Check out the "new" cadet schemes at J*.
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16 an hour, where do I sign... Seriously that is a joke in this day and age!

I'm sure some Slobart bakeries will have you or maybe the McCafe

Already been there done that worked for Country Bake in Slobart min award wages there thats for sure. Im going to take this as very abrupt rumor and take little notice me thinks.
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As someone who *used* to work at an outsourced port - I doubt very much that DJ will outsource mainline ports. It will most likely be changing to a single provider for outsourced ports (all except BNE, SYD, MEL and ADL)...

If it is AC, I'm assuming they will take on a significant number of employees from the incumbent operator - as they did in OOL. For most employees that would mean a pay-rise.

Interesting times...
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heffy, ADL is now Aerocare since Feb this year.
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Sunstar 320 its part AC not fully from what I was told, though it is a one of the mainline ports that could definately become contracted.
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DJ won't outsource mainline ports yet. The Ground Ops EBA has been signed and ratified, so that will keep you boys employed for a little longer. Outsourced port contracts are always under review and whoever offers the cheapest deal wins.
DJ commisioned a study many moons ago and knows that it would be certainly cheaper to outosurce mainline ports than have their own rampies do the job.The timing back then of doing this was 'questionable' so the idea was shelved. However 'shelved' doesnt mean the idea won't be ressurected. Il Deuce knows only too well how much money can be saved by contracting ground services out. He is more than familiar with the Qantas staff vs EGH pay differences, don't you worry about that.
As has been raised in this thread, one mainline port will become outsourced, and it isn't Syd, Bne or Mel.
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I had a feeling ADL would be outsourced, partly at least. I've been out of the industry for 6 months now so I wasn't 100% sure.

While I was in, ADL was the ugly duckling of the "mainline" ports... CBR actually had more flights and better stats (OTP, etc.) that ADL has had for a long time. Not sure what it's like now though.
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