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Old 21st Mar 2010, 02:21
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Jetstar V8s for AKL and SIN base

Latest rumour from the Port Moresby refueller is that Jetstar's B787s will be based in Auckland and Singapore and not Australia.
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Must be approaching EBA time.
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jetstar NZ crew will be happy!!
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It's all in Bruce Buchannan's interview in the April 2010 Australian Aviation, including the fact that NZ crew will operate Australia-Fiji services.
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The Townsville Refueller was onto that back in 2008 when Jetstar bought into Pacific Airlines/Vietnam... that's why they grabbed all the Boeing-time guys.
Text book "QF School of management" - ie: keep the bas#@rds undercutting & fighting amongst themselves...
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Originally Posted by Maisk Rotum
Latest rumour from the Port Moresby refueller is that Jetstar's B787s will be based in Auckland and Singapore and not Australia.
I'd believe AKL, SIN as well as Australia.

P.S. Also, let us not confuse crew bases with aircraft bases.

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How on earth did this idiot become the CEO. After watching the latest interview and others beforehand, what an appalling public speaker. Red faced, uhms ahhs, fidgets around like an old woman. What an embarrassment to Australian aviation when something like this is running the show. F**k me
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Aw come on Ratpoison you've been a bit tough on the guy.

I took this from his Bio:

"Prior to joining Jetstar, Bruce worked for The Boston Consulting Group for 5 years where he was a member of the Travel and Tourism practice area. Bruce has worked for various airlines within Australia, Asia and United States in a wide range of areas including sales, distribution, pricing, marketing, airline loyalty programs, finance and business strategy.
Mr Buchanan has a Civil Engineering Degree from The University of New South Wales, and a Master of Business Administration from The Australian Graduate School of Management and the Anderson School at UCLA."


I have highlighted his relevant capabilities......this makes him more than qualified to run um , ah , um mmmm- the construction of a DAM WALL

same same
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it gets worse...............

jetstar are now using NZ based and employed pilots to operate on domestic oz sectors..

and if anyone is interested, their base pay in ozzy dollars in LESS THAN A REX FO

to be accurate, base pay $46,900 oz, super of only 2% and a "possible" bonus of around $5000, and o/t (if they get it) of around another $5000.

ahhh, the future of aviation looks better all the time
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To be fair though it would be a low cost "good value" dam wall. Only the exact required amount of concrete and re-inforcing steel and the most competitively priced engineers and architects doing the work. No doubt the best contract price labour too. A bargain for all really.

No doubt at all that those owning the dam would sleep well at night as I am sure would those living downstream of the wall.

That's my thinking anyway.

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What about the rumour that JC will operate 78's in QF livery? Now that would cause a rift and I don't blame the QF guys if they are peeved either.
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Where does it end? I mean do we have to have a major accident in this country before the Government decides to look at what a shambles this industry has become and how the beancounters are gambling with peoples lives in a high stakes operation? It'll happen and then you can watch as everyone involved tries to flee for the hills. All of these near misses have given the operators and the travelling public a false sense of security that "it'll never happen here". Has our government decided that they're going to take nothing away from the senate hearings into the aviation industry in the US? I listened to some of that stuff and it sounded disturbingly familiar. With pilots now being payed so little and working these ridiculous fatigue-prone rosters we now have to also deal with pilots from other countries under-cutting us and our conditions. We our now on a par with the taxi industry and we all know what's going on there. The difference being nobody really takes notice when a taxi ploughs into a house.
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Bruce worked for The Boston Consulting Group
he was a member of the Travel and Tourism practice area
in a wide range of areas including sales, distribution, pricing, marketing, airline loyalty programs, finance and business strategy.
Aw Stubby, thanks for the great belly laugh in the Rat household. Even the cat joined in.
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I have highlighted his relevant capabilities......this makes him more than qualified to run um , ah , um mmmm- the construction of a DAM WALL
In his defence, (and I can't believe I'm writing this), an MBA from The AGSM is nothing to be sneezed at. Doesn't stop him from being a tool however.
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Angel

Capt you can cut costs even further, by using bamboo instead of steel

People accept conditions of service and part of the reason is that once pilots get to the top of the sh!theap, they look after number one If conditions are to change, the ones up the top are going to need to lead the charge.

Do you think that will happen?
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Where does it end?

Where does it end?
It ends when punters understand that you get what you pay for.

You want full service? Pay for it.

You want FF miles? Pay for it.

You want customer service? Pay for it.

You want aircraft maintained onshore? Pay for it.

You want experienced, motivated, give-a-damn crew? PAY FOR IT.

Sorry folks, but this is part of the global market - if punters only want to pay $50 to get from Sydney to Melbourne, then if someone will build a business which offers it, then the punters will come.

Me? Personally, I have a limit on how low I will go (as I believe some things can't be done at certain price levels without cutting corners somewhere) and who I will support; that said, it's hard to convince some 22 year-old with minimum hours that he's harming his future when he's offered a gig in the business end of a commercial jet.

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Old 22nd Mar 2010, 05:52
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we now have to also deal with pilots from other countries under-cutting us and our conditions.
Just so I don't misunderstand Aviation Ethics 101, it's ok to undercut a bloke and take his livelihood if he's in the same country, but it's not ok if he is in another country?

Have I missed something?
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Old 22nd Mar 2010, 07:47
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Muff,

NZ guys are not doing oz sectors. JQ Asia guys might be, but they get paid more than oz crew anyway.

The whole thing sucks I agree, but JQNZ do trans-tasman, domestic NZ and as of the end of March SYD-Nadi-SYD.

Hope this helps.
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pleats, wrong. NZ guys are rostered to do oz flying. The rot has started it may get ugly.

Pull the cord and jump, its time to get of the ride
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Old 22nd Mar 2010, 08:36
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Bruce has worked for various airlines within Australia, Asia and United States in a wide range of areas including sales, distribution, pricing, marketing, airline loyalty programs, finance and business strategy.
For what airline/s, other than JQ, did Buchanan work? Everything I've seen is very light on detail.
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