VB Restructure
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Godfrey pretty much confirmed in his interview in the current Australian Aviation about the airline moving to full service onboard...good news that we'll finally have another option for such travel in Australia!
He said: "We've got this Airline of the Future concept which will probably see the possibility of having on the same aeroplane LCC, Economy, and Premium Economy, in the definitions of what we would typically understand what is Economy on a legacy carrier"
Look forward to find out more details soon hopefully!
He said: "We've got this Airline of the Future concept which will probably see the possibility of having on the same aeroplane LCC, Economy, and Premium Economy, in the definitions of what we would typically understand what is Economy on a legacy carrier"
Look forward to find out more details soon hopefully!
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Operation Deadwood
They just punted some more deadwood - and the SYD APM is gooooooooone.
MEL APM deadwood was tidied up a little some time ago,still some small issues.
ADL's APM deadwood got punted from the role a few years ago after his chief protector RS 'resigned' and took the money and ran.
Brisbane's APM deadwood was promoted into HQ a few years back and remains protected by a 'higher source' who announced his/her resignation a few months ago.Once this higher sources retires shortly to a life of champagne and sunshine,the veil of protection will be removed from the former BNE APM who will also be shown the door.
It seems some new Management blood in VB is finally cleaning up the crap and starting with the worst area's.
Oh yeah, the current BNE APM is moving to SYD to clean up the mess that has been left behind down there. Good luck ! Or perhaps it is another part of the process of 'cleaning house' ?
MEL APM deadwood was tidied up a little some time ago,still some small issues.
ADL's APM deadwood got punted from the role a few years ago after his chief protector RS 'resigned' and took the money and ran.
Brisbane's APM deadwood was promoted into HQ a few years back and remains protected by a 'higher source' who announced his/her resignation a few months ago.Once this higher sources retires shortly to a life of champagne and sunshine,the veil of protection will be removed from the former BNE APM who will also be shown the door.
It seems some new Management blood in VB is finally cleaning up the crap and starting with the worst area's.
Oh yeah, the current BNE APM is moving to SYD to clean up the mess that has been left behind down there. Good luck ! Or perhaps it is another part of the process of 'cleaning house' ?
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Well, If it's going to require a new contract I hope the idiots include the "overseas" option. I'm getting sick of watching it stop as we cross the coast............
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Some more hints about what's being considered...this must be the 'full service' Economy section of the aircraft thats been rumoured...
Australia's Virgin Blue looking at three class configuration
Australia's Virgin Blue looking at three class configuration
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Bloody stupid idea , they sould go for the Business class seat as per QF domestic..
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It is their trainset and they can play with it as they wish.
BUT you can't be both fish and fowl.
QF solved this problem by offering (relatively) well defined separate brands, I fear that Virgin Purple will confuse the punters and their investors.
My background is QF, but I want strong domestic competition - it's in everyone's best interest.
BUT you can't be both fish and fowl.
QF solved this problem by offering (relatively) well defined separate brands, I fear that Virgin Purple will confuse the punters and their investors.
My background is QF, but I want strong domestic competition - it's in everyone's best interest.
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Surely they would be better to start a separate business airline, maybe re config the EJets & run them on the business routes like Syd - Mel runs etc.
Sounds like there will even be more empty seats at the front the the aircraft. The many sectors I travel on see the red seats normally pretty empty.
Sounds like there will even be more empty seats at the front the the aircraft. The many sectors I travel on see the red seats normally pretty empty.
Tas, the idea of reducing frequency to appeal to business travellers is about as popular as a pork meal on El Al.
VB can (and may well) run the back half/two thirds of the cabin as a LCC/ULCC and leave the front to pay a flexibility/service premium without losing crucial frequency.
We've learned that there's no such thing as a pure business or pure leisure route. I use Mel/Syd flights (a typical "business" route) to visit friends and there are quite a few suits on Gold Coast, even Cairns flights, and they're primarily leisure flights. So we can run the same plane containing a number of configurations (as we do with a number of different fares) as often as possible.
VB can (and may well) run the back half/two thirds of the cabin as a LCC/ULCC and leave the front to pay a flexibility/service premium without losing crucial frequency.
We've learned that there's no such thing as a pure business or pure leisure route. I use Mel/Syd flights (a typical "business" route) to visit friends and there are quite a few suits on Gold Coast, even Cairns flights, and they're primarily leisure flights. So we can run the same plane containing a number of configurations (as we do with a number of different fares) as often as possible.
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There is endless possibilities with the aircraft configuration some will work and some wont. The last 5 DJ flights I have been on there has been NO one in premium economy. So if DJ domestic are making a profit dispite PremEcon being very empty why don't they remove all PremEco seats and not replace them and increase seat pitch of all the economy remaining seats and restructure as the "leg room airline"
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Why the URL on the side of the airframe?
VIRGINBLUE.COM.AU on the side of the fuselage is a bloody waste of paint.
I know the airline's name; I know Google; and I know how to use this search engine.
Does Qantas have QANTAS.COM on the side of its aircraft?
Just how much spoon-feeding of the punters is necessary?
I know the airline's name; I know Google; and I know how to use this search engine.
Does Qantas have QANTAS.COM on the side of its aircraft?
Just how much spoon-feeding of the punters is necessary?
Fritz, the prem seats aren't entirely a waste of space... when not sold as 2 x PE the seats are re-configurable to 3 x normal economy so if no-one buys PE the full complement of 144 or 180 econ seats are saleable.
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The last 5 DJ flights I have been on there has been NO one in premium economy.
Once the new product and seat is revealed as part of the cabin and service changes, I think it may change...proper 2x2 seating, proper meals/catering, curtained off area etc should see it hopefully pick up.
At the moment, to the normal passenger, its hard to differentiate between the classes, the seats look exactly the same, apart from the plastic cheap looking 'cocktail' table in the middle...people just move themselves into these seats when they're empty mid flight as they can't tell the difference - nothing premium about that.
