The Qantas dilemma: still your national carrier?
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......'word is that they are priddy well ready. Apparently ,the FAAA have to have a look first ......then they'll be uploaded.
Peg 747 may have more of an idea.
So maybe Wednesday
......'word is that they are priddy well ready. Apparently ,the FAAA have to have a look first ......then they'll be uploaded.
Peg 747 may have more of an idea.
So maybe Wednesday
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i am still waiting for my roster like everyone else. Apparently on the day that bidding was to close the company placed a course on every CSM's roster. This would have destroyed any bids so the FAAA asked for additional time to adjust bids around the course.
Bids were left open longer thus delaying the rosters. Cant understand why they didnt run everyone else as usual and just delay the CSM's....
Probably something to do with the Computer time that Aircrew resources have to buy etc....
In any case whoever in management that caused this debacle should have his/her KPI's reviewed accordingly
Bids were left open longer thus delaying the rosters. Cant understand why they didnt run everyone else as usual and just delay the CSM's....
Probably something to do with the Computer time that Aircrew resources have to buy etc....
In any case whoever in management that caused this debacle should have his/her KPI's reviewed accordingly
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Joyce's Dilemma
Continue with the team he has and accept mediocrity as the norm or change the team and aspire to greatness.
Its take big praties to make big decisions.
Has Joyce got the praties?
Its take big praties to make big decisions.
Has Joyce got the praties?
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Got to agree with Twiggs on this one.
Why does it take a week from close of bids to issuing of rosters?
I am sure there is a good reason but to us lurkers it seems only the
press of a button away
Why does it take a week from close of bids to issuing of rosters?
I am sure there is a good reason but to us lurkers it seems only the
press of a button away
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Roster Generation Runtime
The whole process takes four hours.
The results are then analysed to determine coverage and low lines.
If there are any shortfalls found the whole process begins again.
The newness of the system coupled with late introduction of the CSM training course has meant that the bids have to date been run six times.
Hence the delay.
Had the new system become active one BP(269) later these problems would not exist and rosters would have been published on time.
Since it only affects 6000 CC it is not really of any significance(note:sarcasm)
Please excuse thread drift.
What did someone say about mediocrity?
Cabin Services needs a management clean out immediately.
Sick leave over the festive season is expected to reach an all time high
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The results are then analysed to determine coverage and low lines.
If there are any shortfalls found the whole process begins again.
The newness of the system coupled with late introduction of the CSM training course has meant that the bids have to date been run six times.
Hence the delay.
Had the new system become active one BP(269) later these problems would not exist and rosters would have been published on time.
Since it only affects 6000 CC it is not really of any significance(note:sarcasm)
Please excuse thread drift.
What did someone say about mediocrity?
Cabin Services needs a management clean out immediately.
Sick leave over the festive season is expected to reach an all time high
Engage
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delayed Bidrun
Training day for CSM's??????????
Due to the high number of "poor performers"......its time to bring these rogues in for some intensive brainwashing et al.
I talked to several F/A's about the engagement survey in the last week. I ask if they understood which group their feedback impacted on. ALL were under the impression that is was directed at the CCTM and other managers in the office, not CSM/CSS.
The FAAA should show some engagement and follow up on.
Due to the high number of "poor performers"......its time to bring these rogues in for some intensive brainwashing et al.
I talked to several F/A's about the engagement survey in the last week. I ask if they understood which group their feedback impacted on. ALL were under the impression that is was directed at the CCTM and other managers in the office, not CSM/CSS.
The FAAA should show some engagement and follow up on.
You really are a bitter bunch of people.
There are 30000 other employees in Qantas, and you don't see them moaning and complaining anywhere near to the same extent as the cabin crew on this forum. Qantas doesn't owe you a living. If you hate management and the company so much, no one is forcing you to stay. Go! There are thousands of people who will do your job, just look at the recent qcca intakes over the last few years, and on vastly inferior conditions.
No wonder your threads get closed down so quickly. It's just one big bitch session with you guys. If it's not crew numbers, it's IFE, rosters, qcca, managers, centres of excellence, leave, passengers, other airlines cc, etc etc etc
If you had to work one week a year and were paid one million dollars, you'd still complain about something.
Give it a break, and you complain about the y generation who want everything now, now, now.
There are 30000 other employees in Qantas, and you don't see them moaning and complaining anywhere near to the same extent as the cabin crew on this forum. Qantas doesn't owe you a living. If you hate management and the company so much, no one is forcing you to stay. Go! There are thousands of people who will do your job, just look at the recent qcca intakes over the last few years, and on vastly inferior conditions.
No wonder your threads get closed down so quickly. It's just one big bitch session with you guys. If it's not crew numbers, it's IFE, rosters, qcca, managers, centres of excellence, leave, passengers, other airlines cc, etc etc etc
If you had to work one week a year and were paid one million dollars, you'd still complain about something.
Give it a break, and you complain about the y generation who want everything now, now, now.
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......hey autobrakes-as your name implies-you just want to put a STOP to anything that you don't agree with.
Have you got your Xmas roster yet buddy? Do you know where you'll be for the next 8 weeks?
And as for the "usual argument" about CC being expendable ....."and there are others lining up to do your job"- .......do you really think we haven't heard this before.!!!
Yeah I know that this will probably be the last post.......
BUT......it does relate back to that blog post that started all this in the first place. ie THE MANAGEMENT DECISION MAKING PROCESS
Anyway........I'm off to K-Mart. I hear there is a SALE on Glomesh handbags.
Merry Xmas
Have you got your Xmas roster yet buddy? Do you know where you'll be for the next 8 weeks?
And as for the "usual argument" about CC being expendable ....."and there are others lining up to do your job"- .......do you really think we haven't heard this before.!!!
Yeah I know that this will probably be the last post.......
BUT......it does relate back to that blog post that started all this in the first place. ie THE MANAGEMENT DECISION MAKING PROCESS
Anyway........I'm off to K-Mart. I hear there is a SALE on Glomesh handbags.
Merry Xmas
Hey buddy, I don't know where I'll be for the next 8 weeks because I'm on a blank line. That's another thing, the amount of times I hear cc complain because they do a reserve line. I do a "reserve line" 6 months of the year, not once every 18 months like you.
So to answer your question, mate, no I don't know where I'll be for the next 8 weeks.
So to answer your question, mate, no I don't know where I'll be for the next 8 weeks.
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Autobrakes4 in that case you will understand why on time and early roster publication is important to tech and cabin crew alike.
I don't think this is a particular issue to beat up cabin crew on. Tech crew are just as guilty of being upset (and i think rightly so) if their rosters are late.
Just read Qrewroom.
When you can't plan your lives for more than 4 weeks (as I am on 4 week rosters) it is incredibly frustrating. I understand blank/reserves are worse - having done a few in my early days too.
Over Christmas its pretty important to know if you're going to be with your family/friends or not, which is why people get a bit upset more easily.
I don't think this is a particular issue to beat up cabin crew on. Tech crew are just as guilty of being upset (and i think rightly so) if their rosters are late.
Just read Qrewroom.
When you can't plan your lives for more than 4 weeks (as I am on 4 week rosters) it is incredibly frustrating. I understand blank/reserves are worse - having done a few in my early days too.
Over Christmas its pretty important to know if you're going to be with your family/friends or not, which is why people get a bit upset more easily.
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CIS was apparently turned off as it was slowing down the upload of the rosters. With flight attendants logging in every 10 minutes the roster upload would not have been completed until thursday at the rate it was taking so they switched off CIS for a couple of hours
Roster out within the hour i am told
Roster out within the hour i am told
