QF Incident in Hong Kong
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Continuing with the take-off after an engine failure/malfunction but before V1 will probably get you killed. As it was a text book RTO we know it was before V1. After V1 we are “Go Orientated”. But you already knew this right?
I would have thought taking it flying would have been safer/more expedient than a high speed RTO.
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Hmmm ... really.... so your departing VHHH, MTOW in your B744. RTO 10 or 15kts before V1 is going to kill you ...?
I would suggest you should be "go orientated" approaching V1 in a heavy jet...... not after it !
I would suggest you should be "go orientated" approaching V1 in a heavy jet...... not after it !
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Flight Detent. This is a professional pilot rumour network. I know it is hard to believe given the scope of postings here. But please refrain from comments such as yours just posted. At least do some research before you engage in discussion on this forum otherwise you could come out looking like an idiot.
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I think slamer needs some performance lectures, exams and understanding!... which I think he would fail dismally!! Amateur pilots with PPLs...why don't they just go away?
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Another meaningful reply obie.
Go back to your Airline training dept, find someone who flys big a/c (not B737) and knows what they are talking about and have a chat.
Or, as I suspect you have probably been out of the biz a long time and dont have any good contacts. Google the more recent Boeing sites and others (theres some good military stuff on this subject) to see what the thinking is on RTO close to V1.
Oh... with a reply like that (and others on this forum) I hope you were never a trainer.
Go back to your Airline training dept, find someone who flys big a/c (not B737) and knows what they are talking about and have a chat.
Or, as I suspect you have probably been out of the biz a long time and dont have any good contacts. Google the more recent Boeing sites and others (theres some good military stuff on this subject) to see what the thinking is on RTO close to V1.
Oh... with a reply like that (and others on this forum) I hope you were never a trainer.
Whilst statistics may support it, the old adage of continuing rather than stopping, may not always result in a better outcome.
The results are somewhat biased in that more people decide to stop, then run off the end of the runway. Because of this, fewer become statistics after becoming airborne!
So it seems that high speed aborts are more problematic than continuing the takeoff!
The worst example was the DC8 at Jeddah. Continued the takeoff as several tyres disintegrated and caught fire.
The wheel well fire subsequently burnt through the controls and the aircraft was lost before it could return to land!
The results are somewhat biased in that more people decide to stop, then run off the end of the runway. Because of this, fewer become statistics after becoming airborne!
So it seems that high speed aborts are more problematic than continuing the takeoff!
The worst example was the DC8 at Jeddah. Continued the takeoff as several tyres disintegrated and caught fire.
The wheel well fire subsequently burnt through the controls and the aircraft was lost before it could return to land!
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That sounds like a great excuse for my next line check, 'honest it wasn't me, it was the cosmic rays!"