Sick pilot unable to land Qantas jet in Perth
Nitpicker, no one in Qantas thinks that the F/O can't safely park the aircraft, but when you have a management that is paranoid about keeping the insurance premiums as low as possible then you get SOPS like these.
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Well its no wonder the Captain had an issue. The "photo" on the News.com.au website is a QF 787. The Captain obviously suffered a seven years temporal displacement!! Maybe he went to some strange parallel dimension where the thing is actually flying? (Cue Twilight Zone theme)
One wonders why the FO was not similiarly affected.......... an alien perhaps?
Better get News.com.au on to it!
One wonders why the FO was not similiarly affected.......... an alien perhaps?
Better get News.com.au on to it!
We've been allowing this for years in CX and not once has anything un-toward occured. I've found most F/O's quite able to park the beast.
With the Captain backing up on the brakes and watching the terribly complicated taxying manoeuvre it's a no brainer.
With the Captain backing up on the brakes and watching the terribly complicated taxying manoeuvre it's a no brainer.
I have never flown the hub-capped maggot so help me out. No NWS on the FO's side, so if the NWS is INOP what does the MEL say?
Some people might be surprised to know that there are jets out there that rely on full rudder then differential braking for directional control.
Oh and well done to the FO.
Some people might be surprised to know that there are jets out there that rely on full rudder then differential braking for directional control.
Oh and well done to the FO.
Claret,
with you in said seat, was it any wonder?
My Boeing one says ya can't go. For pretty obvious reasons, I would have thought.
The Mirage was like that. Oh, and the Macchi too.
Airlink/QantasLink BAe146, even with a tiller on the RHS, the F/O was, sadly, prohibited by SOP from taxiing.
No NWS on the FO's side, so if the NWS is INOP what does the MEL say?
Some people might be surprised to know that there are jets out there that rely on full rudder then differential braking for directional control.
Yes the 737 does have nose wheel steering on the FO's side. It is controlled with the rudder pedals but the pedals have limited authority compared to the tiller on the capt's side. Both pilots have nose wheel steering.
Under favourable conditions, the aircraft can be turned 90deg to exit a runway with pedal control of the nose wheel and a given amount of differential thrust and/or and braking. If the FO did not do this, that's his choice and perfectly sound.
Some people get really excited about nothing.
Under favourable conditions, the aircraft can be turned 90deg to exit a runway with pedal control of the nose wheel and a given amount of differential thrust and/or and braking. If the FO did not do this, that's his choice and perfectly sound.
Some people get really excited about nothing.
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Not familiar with the 737 but the 747 rudder pedals are coupled to the steering control system. Full rudder deflection provides about 10 degrees of nose wheel steering as against of 70 degrees tiller authority. Should be enough to vacate the runway at a high speed turnoff with rudder steering only if the right hand tiller is not fitted on QF 737s and if the system design is similar to the 747?
Eclan, you have beaten me to it.
Eclan, you have beaten me to it.
The Captains were standing around today in the crew room saying "How did the FO do it". The FOs were standing around on the other side saying "how did you know he was incapacitated"
(this is an old joke and nothing to do with the individuals involved!)
(this is an old joke and nothing to do with the individuals involved!)
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Here's a possibility, after landing.
Park Brake apply.
Help Captain from left seat if not already done so in flight.
F/O climb into left seat.
Adjust rudder pedals and seat position to F/O's liking.
TAXY THE FRIGGIN AIRCRAFT.
Jeez couldn't he find an applicable page in the QRH for the situation.
Peuce.
No it aint sacred mate. After declaring a Pan he was within his rights to make that decision.
Park Brake apply.
Help Captain from left seat if not already done so in flight.
F/O climb into left seat.
Adjust rudder pedals and seat position to F/O's liking.
TAXY THE FRIGGIN AIRCRAFT.
Jeez couldn't he find an applicable page in the QRH for the situation.
Peuce.
No it aint sacred mate. After declaring a Pan he was within his rights to make that decision.
Don't forget. While the guy who has never taxied a Jet with a tiller before is wiggling all over the taxiway, lets make sure he turns off his lights as to not upset the real pilots.
Or maybe he could get a tug to tow him back.
I'm a little concerned that some people think this was the silly thing to do.
I think I'll just stay home from now on with you lot out there.
This place is an embarrassment.
Or maybe he could get a tug to tow him back.
I'm a little concerned that some people think this was the silly thing to do.
I think I'll just stay home from now on with you lot out there.
This place is an embarrassment.
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I mean why didnt the FO just plug in his emergency portable tiller he carries in his nav bag?
SOPs say you can't do it, so he didnt. I have sat there in a sim where the FO was drilled by the senior check for attempting it.
And in reality it is just as easy to be towed off, although a little bit slower.
SOPs say you can't do it, so he didnt. I have sat there in a sim where the FO was drilled by the senior check for attempting it.
And in reality it is just as easy to be towed off, although a little bit slower.