Qantas to employ 100 apprentice engineers.
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Well this thread is about Qantas apprenticeships. So if you do an apprenticeship with Qantas, and hence do the AA package, then yes once it gets approved it does go towards it.
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Remember that there is a whole world of aviation out there besides one company called Qantas. These apprentices can learn their trade, study, get their hours up and pick up a license. If QF choose not to recognise that licence then they can go and work for another company and dare I say it earn more money than QF would pay them anyway.
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Arnold,
Just off the top of my head..VirginTech. If a young engineer picks up a 737-800 licence at Qantas and the company does not wish to recognise said license that person can take said license down the road to VT and earn over 100,000 pa as a base rate. I think that is more than QF will pay that person if they did recognise said license.
Then there is National Jet, Jetstar, MAS, ST Aero, Dragon Air....should I go on?
Like I said, aviation does exist outside of the red rat.
GB
Just off the top of my head..VirginTech. If a young engineer picks up a 737-800 licence at Qantas and the company does not wish to recognise said license that person can take said license down the road to VT and earn over 100,000 pa as a base rate. I think that is more than QF will pay that person if they did recognise said license.
Then there is National Jet, Jetstar, MAS, ST Aero, Dragon Air....should I go on?
Like I said, aviation does exist outside of the red rat.
GB
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If a young engineer picks up a 737-800 licence at Qantas and the company does not wish to recognise said license that person can take said license down the road to VT and earn over 100,000 pa as a base rate
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Sadly i have to agree with alot of people that getting into aviation is not the most finacial position you could want to be in. I was a QF apprentice which i think was a very good start to being a LAME. Not the best place to stay, and def only pays well after many years, licences and scewing over those who will follow you.
for the potential Apprentices; i say this. Some guys in QF are great teachers, others will harrass and victimise you. Unfortunetly, due to the marketing power machine at QF you will probably watch the females be trained, awarded apprentice of the year....blah blah blah whilst having half your knowledge and determination. I know guys who went 20 years not getting trained, then i know guys who got a course a few months out of their time, (their old man worked up stairs).
you can always go pay for a course, $6K-$10K for the course, time off 6-12 weeks, etc. then you have to get the SOE. Next when you try get a LAME job you will be up against the immigrants that the govn. has decided are needed to keep the wages low. by the way, these guys all have 4+++ licences and on paper all look very good. WE all know that their skill and knowledge is less, however new airlines/MRO's just want you to sign the card.
Ask around how many AME's left QF in the last 10 years. alot.
have i missed anything....
for the potential Apprentices; i say this. Some guys in QF are great teachers, others will harrass and victimise you. Unfortunetly, due to the marketing power machine at QF you will probably watch the females be trained, awarded apprentice of the year....blah blah blah whilst having half your knowledge and determination. I know guys who went 20 years not getting trained, then i know guys who got a course a few months out of their time, (their old man worked up stairs).
you can always go pay for a course, $6K-$10K for the course, time off 6-12 weeks, etc. then you have to get the SOE. Next when you try get a LAME job you will be up against the immigrants that the govn. has decided are needed to keep the wages low. by the way, these guys all have 4+++ licences and on paper all look very good. WE all know that their skill and knowledge is less, however new airlines/MRO's just want you to sign the card.
Ask around how many AME's left QF in the last 10 years. alot.
have i missed anything....
empire4, the guys who get training quickly don't always have daddy upstairs looking after them. A mate of mine was in QF engineering at the right place and right time - quite a few LAMEs were retiring and accepting VRs. So they started training more guys up and he was one of them. Thats the same as how I got my type course - when the industry is booming there is faster career progression.
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IAW, sorry mate. wasn't meant to be pointed that everyone has a dad upstairs, just seen alot of connected guys that jump the more capable guys. There are guys that do get trained on merit.
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Dear QF Super Lame,
Sorry about the late reply, I have been tied up for a few days. I dont believe that I live in a dreamworld regarding VT (although I admit I do not work for them or for VB). I happened to see their recently posted adverts looking for 737NG rated LAME's in various bases around Australia. Sorry if this made me assume that they may have LAME positions available. Entirely my mistake and sorry again for any inconveniance this assumption may have caused you, or for anybody out there with a 737-800 licence who may be interested in a job, and possibly higher pay. My bad!
P.S. Good luck to all successful apprentices at QF, make the most of what is unquestionably some of the worlds best training at QF, and please try not to get caught up in the dreamworld that QF Superlame is trapped in. It is a big world out there.
All the best,
GB.
Sorry about the late reply, I have been tied up for a few days. I dont believe that I live in a dreamworld regarding VT (although I admit I do not work for them or for VB). I happened to see their recently posted adverts looking for 737NG rated LAME's in various bases around Australia. Sorry if this made me assume that they may have LAME positions available. Entirely my mistake and sorry again for any inconveniance this assumption may have caused you, or for anybody out there with a 737-800 licence who may be interested in a job, and possibly higher pay. My bad!
P.S. Good luck to all successful apprentices at QF, make the most of what is unquestionably some of the worlds best training at QF, and please try not to get caught up in the dreamworld that QF Superlame is trapped in. It is a big world out there.
All the best,
GB.
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Hey guys just my two cents worth,
I agree totally about the degredation of conditions/ pay and lack of respect from corporate fat cats who only care about this years bonus at the expense of a once great airline (we know who that was he should be locked away with the rest of the criminals!).
Having said that a Qantas Apprenticeship is a great opportunity for any young guy/gal. It is a good grounding and it doesnt mean you have to stay at Qantas or in the industry, but it teaches more than technical skills it also teaches you life skills. I know so many people that have finished their respective apprenticeships and gone on to great jobs, often nothing to do with Aviation.
I think doing the QF apprenticeship was the making of many people including myself.
Just my views dont shoot me all at once.
I agree totally about the degredation of conditions/ pay and lack of respect from corporate fat cats who only care about this years bonus at the expense of a once great airline (we know who that was he should be locked away with the rest of the criminals!).
Having said that a Qantas Apprenticeship is a great opportunity for any young guy/gal. It is a good grounding and it doesnt mean you have to stay at Qantas or in the industry, but it teaches more than technical skills it also teaches you life skills. I know so many people that have finished their respective apprenticeships and gone on to great jobs, often nothing to do with Aviation.
I think doing the QF apprenticeship was the making of many people including myself.
Just my views dont shoot me all at once.
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White Man,
Somebody making sense....Good to see.
For people who desire to stay and work an entire career at a legacy carrier it is indeed a marvellous opportunity.
For others that dont end up working an entire career at a legacy carrier it is still a marvellous opportunity.
GB.
Somebody making sense....Good to see.
For people who desire to stay and work an entire career at a legacy carrier it is indeed a marvellous opportunity.
For others that dont end up working an entire career at a legacy carrier it is still a marvellous opportunity.
GB.
