Ansett gone .......but ?
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Quote Obie = Alex Patto Awesome. hey obie, could you update the sc*ob list please. Its so important and relevant but its full of mistakes. A few guys "slipped under the wire" .................................
....................................... Poor old Alex.
Was the Judge, Jury and The Executioner.
Full of mistakes, many innocent sadly died,.
He could apologies for the losses but that's not a mad mans style.
Maybe he just forgot how good Ansett was to him???
I'm sure he feels the pain.
We forgive him....
....................................... Poor old Alex.
Was the Judge, Jury and The Executioner.
Full of mistakes, many innocent sadly died,.
He could apologies for the losses but that's not a mad mans style.
Maybe he just forgot how good Ansett was to him???
I'm sure he feels the pain.
We forgive him....
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Those people who wanted it done the "AN way" were probably just as painful within AN as out. Have not heard to many TN people having the same problem, though there were a few that went into another major Australian Airline that were a pain in the ar#e, and probably still are. Me, I just kept my head down, and was quite happy to go along for the ride and pick up the pay check. I realised my career was over, and got very used to skippers younger than me, looking me over at sign on, and you could read their faces "what am I going to do with this old bastard, he is one of THOSE" I found if you just kept your mouth shut, only ever offered any advice on request, they tolerated you (just) some even made a effort to be friendly, some never did, it especially some of those silly old bastards who looked at you over their glasses, like you were something they found on their shoe, and to be honest, a couple I thought were freckin hopeless and would have been weeded out in TN quick smart. So I just took the money and sat there like a frog on a rock (as does most S/O's) and as I said before went along for the ride (all thanks to the silver bodgie and the fat man) thats how I dealt with it.
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Easy, Obie, I never doubted my ability, but my ability was never required, QF was/is a funny sort if institution, you get hold of a young bloke and "Qantasise" him (or her) and they have little conception of a world outside that. This is not a personnel attack on any individual just a observation I made at the time I was there. Of course it could have all changed, I am talking the middle ninties here. The whole time I was at QF I felt a outsider, a "backyard boy" as they called us, I never took it personally, every airline has its own way, and was glad for the money and the job with 4 growing sprogs. When you flew around the "backyard" we had different aircraft types, some had hubcaps, (the B727) some were untrustworthy little mongrels (the 9) but flying the 747 was sort of like having a old EK Holden, and was as boring as bat sh^t, and I used to look at some of the crew that took themselves so very seriously, and wonder how they would cope with a DC9 check list from OOL to BNE (which is equivalent to being a one armed paper hangar) you did not have time to be serious, these people were simply trained in another way, for another job, and it was interesting to note the difference. I guess in a round about way I was really commenting on the "The way we did it in AN" comment, I know it got up QF peoples noses, and that was my reason to be fairly careful in what I said or did, and to perfectly honest you felt a bit ashamed and probably suffered a little from a hurt ego, one minute your a skipper, next a second officer, and no spring chicken at that, sh^t happens and it happened to us, and walla, no career anymore and too old to get one. I have long since moved on, but the posts on AN and TN bring back a lot of memories, and perhaps some regrets, but life goes on, and cheers to you young blokes, may you have as much fun as we did.
