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Merged: APNG Twin Otter Missing

Old 11th Apr 2011, 10:43
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I don't think there is enough said !

What the report highlights is the way that some operators have been operating incorrectly for years, what I'm specifically referring to is the co-pilot not being instrument rated. APNG is not the only operator who has put non instrument rated pilots in their RH seats, in an effort to fulfill the requirements to operate IFR. The report also displays a lack of surveillance by the regulator. As to how the co-pilot got his medical certificate is another issue in itself, reading in between the lines.

On the upside it looks like this accident has been a wake call for the industry in general, to lift their standards and this also includes the regulator. It's also good to see that new rules and changes are going to be made as a direct result of this accident.

It's also very good to see that APNG have pro actively hired some very experienced Twin Otter Captains since the accident, in an effort to raise their pilots experience levels, and from what I have personally observed, this really has payed off.

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Old 30th Apr 2011, 23:30
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Incase anyone missed it
Investigation: AE-2009-050 - Controlled flight into terrain - 11 km south-east of Kokoda Airstrip, Papua New Guinea, 11 August 2009, P2-MCB, De Havilland Canada DHC-6-300
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 23:50
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1978 Peter Giles in TGT

All of the Otter Pilots in Lae were interviewed at the inquest.



After I had been questioned and while I was sitting in the hot seat there was some discussion between the Talair Lawyer and the Coroner that somehow or other the Maintaince Release had gone missing and somehow or other there was no record of who flew the aircraft prior to Peter. I tried to interject but was told to leave the courtroom. I think with a lot of PNG prangs the legal systems just went through the motions and basically the Operators had all the power.



Pete had a Wife (Barbara) and I think the Kids names were Ryan and Tara. He was a really good guy and they were a nice family. The extra sad thing was that he had resigned from Talair and his house was packed up as he had accepted a job with Air Pacific. Barbara and the kids went South instead.
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Old 29th Jan 2014, 06:37
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APNG WHAT HAPPENED TO ITS OTTERS

Bula guys/girls. As said what are they doing now , no otter only dash 8
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Old 29th Jan 2014, 10:27
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Some of the Otters were sold to Hevilift, the rest are for sale

APNG only operate Dash 8s now, 14 of them in the fleet
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Old 29th Jan 2014, 21:39
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Thats really sad but i guess apng is solely responsible for this deaths, but wats really shocking is that hevilift bought some of their otters, rumors say that they in hagen 6 OF THEM WITH NO PILOTS, also heard that they might want to send those otters to myanmar for hevilifts ops there., any truth in that
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Old 29th Jan 2014, 22:44
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Maybe Hevilift could get the 8 helicopter pilots they just sacked to fly the otters.

The DHC8 accident report can't be far off being thrown out into the public domain.
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Old 29th Jan 2014, 22:50
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why were they sacked, well im sitting in the office in nadi fiji pouring down since yesterday morning nadi river banks are broken this cud be another flood devastation
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 22:12
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The Hevilift 8

Two B 412 helicopters coming off contract. Alot of experience being washed away there, unfortunately.
Good luck to them.
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 22:27
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Not Hevilift's fault, is a sign of the times.
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Old 3rd Feb 2014, 21:09
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Gosh, i am trying to get into heavylift as otter commander,,,,,,,,,, need that 28days off
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