teresa green

Still cannot believe in this day and age this old QF crap division of pilots and C/C still exists. In the days of TAA and Ansett, it was widely accepted that the aircraft needed pilots, engineers and cabin crew to function as a airliner, it could NOT operate as such if one element was missing, we all got on, we were one crew, regardless of what we did, we had respect for each other, and enjoyed each others company when away, there were many marriages (and some divoices) between us all, and it was a happy work place, fast forward my time to QF and suddenly it all changed, different crew buses, different hotels, not much interaction between the two crews (note, not one crew) and I after many years in TAA was quite amazed, in fact was quite astonished at the attitude of some Tech Crew to C/C and vice versa, so different to the happy camps of the domestics, so bloody silly, so unaustralian, so pathetic and childish, time a whole lot of QF people grew up, it IS 2009 not 1943, in some RAF base, where this whole attitude of Pilots and "erks" aka engineers, were considered to be on a seperate social scale, and this carried on to mainly QF after the war, thank God it was rejected in the domestic carriers.

Flying Solo

for those who posted something constructive.. thanks.

Flying Solo

teresa, if only these "pilots" would take a look at TAA and the Australian Airlines (AO) that managed to work so well on CC and TC working together. Not wanting them to fall out of an aircraft. Thanks for your input

Mr. Hat

It's a pilots forum and thats that.

Other parts of the industry (engineers, security, baggage handlers, managers, owners) join in and offer their views but hardly make the problems that it seems certain Cabin Crew members do. It seems like its a daily event that a new thread on cabin crew to stay or not to stay. I can't remember similar threads on engineers or any other group for that matter.

So to stick to the 2 Cabin Crew forums and if you have been banned from them then maybe you shouldn't be here at all.

As for the Cabin crew that have always posted here with no problem feel free to stay. Thats how i see it anyway.


Simple.

j3pipercub

Solo,

You have made sure that this is no-longer just a QF issue, it is now an entire pilot body issue. You were the protagonist in all of this, by the very nature of your thread title. You don't walk in somewhere and expect everything. You ask nicely, and acknowledge that you are here because you couldn't behave elsewhere.

The hypocrisy of then stating you don't know why we can't get along is non-sensical in the extreme.

You mention in the other forum:

http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-reporting...ansfers-4.html

that you were trying to 'get a bit of friendliness going'. By all means do that. BUT DON'T TRY AND 'TEACH US' TO SHARE. Which is what you are implying in your thread title.

j3

framer

My personal take is that pilots tend to view things from a different perspective. As a result a particular topic is discussed in a certain way that is different to how it is discussed by cabin crew.
An example of this is the thread on QF charging for exit rows. I opened the thread expecting one type of conversation and got something quite different. It wasn't interesting to me and there seemed to be a lot of rubbish written in between the interesting takes on the situation.
In short, the "tone" of the thread/forum has been altered in a way that is disapointing/annoying to me.
Framer

capt.cynical

Thank heavens I'm retired, I don't think I could stand working with any of the posters on this thread !!!!

Keg & Domestos excluded

Ultergra

PPRuNe used to be a great place to get some insight into what was happening in the industry. Now we get these CC comenting on pilot issues (read Head's down and that other tool bag that used to P*SS everyone off...) and now it's turned into a forum that quite frankly isn't that interesting.

CC have been banned from other forums, BAN THEM HERE, they are already annoying all of us. I guess it doesn't take much intellegence to become a CC member... if it did, they would read the title.. PPRuNe... Professional Pilots Rumour Network.. Not CCRN... faaaaaaaar out, was that so bloody hard? Get your own forum...

I saw that chick on 60 minutes tonight and it taught me about society in general, how stupid are people becoming... I mean, you lie on camera and you're an instant star..

To the the old PPRuNe.... chik chik booom....

indamiddle

this is the best thread ever.
keep it up, i am pissing my pants over the comments here