CASA premature ADS-B mandate will result in even more pilots losing jobs
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It is my personal observation that most in your trade (lets not call it a profession), suffer from the same narcissistic personality disorder that gives rise to the belief that we all should be "controlled" by some sort of pommie /Stasi screw with a small dick and a big microphone.
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Apologies for not responding earlier, but I am not normally in need of having the last say but I'll make this exception.
I am also not accustomed to apologising for remarks made in the heat of the moment because it highlights my exact feelings at the time. However I do apologise for saying;
I meant to say, "a few" and not "most".
To those real professionals whom I have the greatest respect for, I also apologise for including you in with the "rabbits", but as I have I been found guilty and sentenced by association within the industry you can probably see where I got confused.
Back to facts;
There is no mandate for ADSB below FL290.
There is no subsidy for ADSB below FL 290..
There is no offered "QUANTIFIABLE" evidence that there is any mid air collision risk that ADSB would address in class G airspace.
It is "POSSIBLE" to have a mid air collision in class G airspace.
At best, to make it a viable anti collission tool everyone would have to be equipped with ADSB "OUT" so those financially and fanatically able could see them with ADSB "IN". TCAS?
A lot of people object to this cost impost.
There is no cost benefit analysis to support any mandate of ADSB below the Flight Levels at this stage.
ADSB is an ATC "tool".
ADSB is a recognised and accepted evolutionary development of radar in places where radar is now required.
It will cost in excess of $10,000, (as a conservative estimate, not mine) to install some equipment).
There is a difference between CTAF R and CTAF for requirements of communication.
There is NO requirement to have a transponder in a CTAF.
Some people were writing out cheques when there was no money in the bank. There was no subsidy as promised by some enthisiastic salesmen. (zealots).
These people making the promise of free installation belong to the above paragraph. They are now making apologies and blaming CASA.
The sceptics who said it was improbable that any subsidy would come to fruition are now also blamed with "scuttling" something that wasn't there in the first place to be "scuttled".
Obviously -CASA "stooges".
Jabawocky;
The Federal elections I refer to, have had candidates compromised. The NSW chapter now should be uncontested with a worthy candidate. Refer my PM.
I am also not accustomed to apologising for remarks made in the heat of the moment because it highlights my exact feelings at the time. However I do apologise for saying;
It is my personal observation that most in your trade (lets not call it a profession), suffer from the same narcissistic personality disorder that gives rise to the belief that we all should be "controlled" by some sort of pommie /Stasi screw with a small dick and a big microphone.
To those real professionals whom I have the greatest respect for, I also apologise for including you in with the "rabbits", but as I have I been found guilty and sentenced by association within the industry you can probably see where I got confused.
Back to facts;
There is no mandate for ADSB below FL290.
There is no subsidy for ADSB below FL 290..
There is no offered "QUANTIFIABLE" evidence that there is any mid air collision risk that ADSB would address in class G airspace.
It is "POSSIBLE" to have a mid air collision in class G airspace.
At best, to make it a viable anti collission tool everyone would have to be equipped with ADSB "OUT" so those financially and fanatically able could see them with ADSB "IN". TCAS?
A lot of people object to this cost impost.
There is no cost benefit analysis to support any mandate of ADSB below the Flight Levels at this stage.
ADSB is an ATC "tool".
ADSB is a recognised and accepted evolutionary development of radar in places where radar is now required.
It will cost in excess of $10,000, (as a conservative estimate, not mine) to install some equipment).
There is a difference between CTAF R and CTAF for requirements of communication.
There is NO requirement to have a transponder in a CTAF.
Some people were writing out cheques when there was no money in the bank. There was no subsidy as promised by some enthisiastic salesmen. (zealots).
These people making the promise of free installation belong to the above paragraph. They are now making apologies and blaming CASA.
The sceptics who said it was improbable that any subsidy would come to fruition are now also blamed with "scuttling" something that wasn't there in the first place to be "scuttled".
Obviously -CASA "stooges".
Jabawocky;
The Federal elections I refer to, have had candidates compromised. The NSW chapter now should be uncontested with a worthy candidate. Refer my PM.
It is my personal observation that most in your trade (lets not call it a profession), suffer from the same narcissistic personality disorder that gives rise to the belief that we all should be "controlled" by some sort of pommie /Stasi screw with a small dick and a big microphone.
to impinge on my rights to fly without someone breathing down my neck
the thing I like about Pprune (and the reason I'd never want certain "personalities" to get banned) is that eventually people say what they really think - and can't deny it later ("I never said that").
whether it is few or most, a trade or a profession, whatever.
No wonder no-one takes certain segments of this industry seriously (just don't tell 'em everyone is laughing at them!).
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Owen Stanley;
A measured and acceptable response. I am as guilty as many for going off when I should be more circumspect. I guess we are both passionate in our own ways. I hope things work out so we are both satisfied.
cbradio;
Don't know who you are mate, but newbies need to be given a voice. I wouldn't like to see threads binned when there is some good scribblings that can be dissected later.
With regard to rights, I should mention an opinion I have always had, and that is, when you are granted a privelege you have a right to exercise that privelege within the parameters granted. Goes for aviating and, more broadly, posting.
There are some moderate moderators on PPRune.
A measured and acceptable response. I am as guilty as many for going off when I should be more circumspect. I guess we are both passionate in our own ways. I hope things work out so we are both satisfied.
cbradio;
Don't know who you are mate, but newbies need to be given a voice. I wouldn't like to see threads binned when there is some good scribblings that can be dissected later.
With regard to rights, I should mention an opinion I have always had, and that is, when you are granted a privelege you have a right to exercise that privelege within the parameters granted. Goes for aviating and, more broadly, posting.
There are some moderate moderators on PPRune.
With regard to rights, I should mention an opinion I have always had, and that is, when you are granted a privelege you have a right to exercise that privelege within the parameters granted. Goes for aviating and, more broadly, posting.
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le Pinouin;
Your point is? I hope you are not implying I am irresponsible if I fly, as I do, within the parameters of the law.
ACROBATIC;
And we all know who you are, you bitter little vice president. And your point other than to make mischief is exactly what? BTW how did your boy go in those elections.
With rights come responsibilities & the rights of other people.
ACROBATIC;
And we all know who you are, you bitter little vice president. And your point other than to make mischief is exactly what? BTW how did your boy go in those elections.
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I would guess the sum total of votes he didn't get is more important to many who threw their hat in the ring just to keep him out.
I think you are minus 20% out in your "rounding off". Something you learnt from "sworn" statements to the JCPAA of 2006 perhaps?
I think you are minus 20% out in your "rounding off". Something you learnt from "sworn" statements to the JCPAA of 2006 perhaps?
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