100 Qantas Pilots to join Jetstar
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To a degree the SO / FO debate depends on an individuals previous experience.
As a very junior SO on the A388, I am absolutely certain that I would need substantial additional training and experience in a whole raft of areas to even get close to FO standard. In my instance, with no previous jet time I am definitely lacking in energy management skills for the descent and approach phases. If all the systems are working, the weather is fine and no last minute ATC changes then all would be sweet. However, in the real world, I know I am not even close.
Other people with previous command/FO jet time would probably not have this issue to the same extent. Horses for courses.
At the moment, I just happy no pink slip has arrived in my mail box, yet.....
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As a very junior SO on the A388, I am absolutely certain that I would need substantial additional training and experience in a whole raft of areas to even get close to FO standard. In my instance, with no previous jet time I am definitely lacking in energy management skills for the descent and approach phases. If all the systems are working, the weather is fine and no last minute ATC changes then all would be sweet. However, in the real world, I know I am not even close.
Other people with previous command/FO jet time would probably not have this issue to the same extent. Horses for courses.
At the moment, I just happy no pink slip has arrived in my mail box, yet.....
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When QF S/O's came to Jetstar it did not matter whether they where from the 747,767, or the A330,they had to do the full endorsement for either the 320 or 330.CASA does not recognise the S/O rating and therefore requires the full deal.
Having been involved with guys of the Boeing and the Airbus from QF there was not a lot of difference,which did surprise me a little.At the end of the day both groups checked out,resigned from QF after the applicable time and most are now 320 Capts.
Having been involved with guys of the Boeing and the Airbus from QF there was not a lot of difference,which did surprise me a little.At the end of the day both groups checked out,resigned from QF after the applicable time and most are now 320 Capts.
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One would expect assignment of mainliners to jq to be in reverse order seniorority.
Heard recently there may be an ambiguous clause in the latest (voted up eba) that allows the co to choose who goes & who doesn't.
Someone please, say it isn't so...
Heard recently there may be an ambiguous clause in the latest (voted up eba) that allows the co to choose who goes & who doesn't.
Someone please, say it isn't so...
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Oh Dear
Don't think he is having a go at the Jetconnect Crews personally.
Whether your a QF, JQ or a VB pilot is not the point.
At any time it should be of great concern that there are other pilots out there operating the exact aircraft, with the identical company logo and the same uniform on less pay and conditions. Period.
Look at the pattern emerging.
QF with Jetconnect.
JQ with JQ NZ
VB with Pacific Blue/V Australia
Australian pilots unions from AIPA, the JQ pilots council, the AFAP and NZALPA have a lot to be ashamed for.
This S%*# only happens in this neck of the woods.
We fight amoungst fellow aviators whilst the above companies sit back, have a chuckle and watch us create our own collective downfalls.
Whether your a QF, JQ or a VB pilot is not the point.
At any time it should be of great concern that there are other pilots out there operating the exact aircraft, with the identical company logo and the same uniform on less pay and conditions. Period.
Look at the pattern emerging.
QF with Jetconnect.
JQ with JQ NZ
VB with Pacific Blue/V Australia
Australian pilots unions from AIPA, the JQ pilots council, the AFAP and NZALPA have a lot to be ashamed for.
This S%*# only happens in this neck of the woods.
We fight amoungst fellow aviators whilst the above companies sit back, have a chuckle and watch us create our own collective downfalls.
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"This S%*# only happens in this neck of the woods."
An ignorant statement if ever there was one.
Do you know how many non BA companies have carried the BA logo over the years?
What about Lufty cargo. And Virgin express in days gone by.
Do you think Delta pilots enjoy seeing RJ's fly the famous widget.
In fact, as I sit here in my North American nightstop airport waiting for a late flight, I cant help but notice that most of the major carriers serving this city do so with mainline aircraft as well as their lowly paid "Eastern" variant.
Your comment indicates how blinkered you are to the wider airline industry.
You should get out a bit more.
An ignorant statement if ever there was one.
Do you know how many non BA companies have carried the BA logo over the years?
What about Lufty cargo. And Virgin express in days gone by.
Do you think Delta pilots enjoy seeing RJ's fly the famous widget.
In fact, as I sit here in my North American nightstop airport waiting for a late flight, I cant help but notice that most of the major carriers serving this city do so with mainline aircraft as well as their lowly paid "Eastern" variant.
Your comment indicates how blinkered you are to the wider airline industry.
You should get out a bit more.
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fearcampaign are you for real?
I don't think your anger should be directed at the Unions but rather the Governments who legislate such Laws that allow management to do what they presently are doing.
The Unions can only comply with the laws of the land and as such are pretty well hamstrung thanks to Howard.
I don't think your anger should be directed at the Unions but rather the Governments who legislate such Laws that allow management to do what they presently are doing.
The Unions can only comply with the laws of the land and as such are pretty well hamstrung thanks to Howard.
