100 Qantas Pilots to join Jetstar
 

It's a rumour ...

100 Qantas pilots to join Jetstar as FOs. Solves Jetstar's FO shortage and Qantas' pilot excess. Probably tied to ...

Transfer of A330(s) to Jetstar, some (3 or 4) to be based in Darwin. This in turn driven by ...

Jetstar to start Europe flights from Darwin. Tech stop at a mid-East port, probably Dubai, in an response to ...

Strong market share by Emirates and Etihad has eroded Qantas' market share. Already too many LCC through south-east Asia, none yet on the mid-East route. Also ...

A330s ordered by Qantas do not have the oxygen supply necessary to fly via Afghanistan or China, necessitating a mid-East flight plan.

Strange not long ago some QF people wouldn't even spit on a job at J*.

Why would potential EU pax choose to fly to/via Darwin when they can 1 stop from virtually any EU city, via DXB, to Mel/Syd/Per/Bne multiple times/day?

Cheap tickets. Passengers on Jetstar already fly SYD/MEL to BLI/SIN/SGN via DRW, often with several hours on the ground at DRW at some ungodly hour. So I suppose there may be a market there, even with the stopovers, if it's cheap enough.

Agree there about the ticket prices. Only a couple of weeks ago my sister and brother in law booked on a cruise that ends at Honalulu. The travel agent they used booked it all including hawaii stopover etc and return flights home to Sydney. That caused the problem. $2000 ea one way to fly on either Qantas or United home. I told them they are joking and got involved on the internet. The result $695ea on Jetstar a saving of nearly 3k. Sure the LCC might not be the best way to travel with no movies, pay for your meals etc..but, that is a massive difference and can only end up with the LCC's gaining the bulk of the tourist traffic in time unless the legacy carriers wake up to themselves.

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Originally Posted by Zonker

Strong market share by Emirates and Etihad has eroded Qantas' market share. Already too many LCC through south-east Asia, none yet on the mid-East route. Also ...

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Jetstar is about to overtake Emirates in terms of Australian market share. Jetstar is 0.1% behind EK. Considering EK is operating high capacity metal and JQ has 6 330's and a couple of A320's on SHI, this is a pretty good indication on where things are going...

That writing was on the wall along time ago..And those that didnt see it must have had there eyes shut..Exactly the same as VB..Bully pilots in to positions they never wanted by threats of redundancies..Just another way for management to achieve what they want and need!! A...holes..

AIPA COM members know nothing of this. Ring and ask one like I did if you don't believe me.

Sounds lie some significant lifestyle changes coming up. Does anyone know if it is off the bottom of the list or otherwise?

If Jetstar has an F/O shortage why did they try and cut the Qantas pilots on exchange contracts short?

The only practical way it could happen is SO's being made redundant from mainline could be offerred FO slots at Jetstar via the MOU.
As far as transferring more A330's to Jetstar, Alan Joyce was asked by the AIPA President about this a few weeks ago and was told categorically that it wasn't going to happen.
Mind you, the LH EBA was being voted on at the time and perhaps Joyce would say anything to get that over the line. That was certainly Dixons style.

Correct me if I am wrong but I recall that the MOU only applies to people in Jetstar/QANTAS at the time when it was enacted. That means new hires in the last few years are not eligible. Can't be bothered looking it up.

CTC
 

Wrong,

CTC graduate cadets from the UK will be taking up F/O positions in Jetstar where there are shortages.

CTC Wings is the one of the world's top flight airline pilot training programmes, turning dreams into exciting careers with world-class airlines including easyJet, Thomson Airways/First Choice Airways, British Airways, Jet2.com, Monarch Airlines, Thomas Cook Airlines, JETSTAR, CityJet, DHL Air, Eagle Airways (New Zealand) and easyJet Switzerland..

Due to the downturn in Europe they are being deployed where airline positions are hard to fill such as Jetstar.

fear campaign I would suggest to you that the Jetstar quoted there was for the Vietnam operation.. bit of difference hey!

And lets not get started on how CTC is destroying the market with 6 month contracts for newly qualified guys and paying them 1000 pounds a month for the privilege shall we? :ugh:

Wrong,

CTC cadets originally earmarked for Easyjet on their way to Jetstar NZ as well.

Just how many of these cadets have the right to live and work in NZ? How many are Kiwis?

I wonder, have the NZCAA rubber stamped the NZ JQ company manuals that (that would need to) allow 300hr FO's with no time on type to crew an aircraft conducting RNP approaches into ZQN? Has JQ NZ even got an AOC yet?

From what I heard, AirNZ worked long and hard to get its RNP operation up and running and Jetstar are not finding it that easy either.

I would have to look at the NZ rules, but I recall that you require 500Hrs for part 121 operations...

gee... what a surprise!

Gee thats great news......

I can hear it already, you QF guys are lucky we are hear to save you.