REX Spy Camera in SYD Crew Room
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REX Spy Camera in SYD Crew Room
Has anyone seen or heard of an official Company reasoning behind the recently installed webcam/spycam in the Sydney Crew Room aimed at the "Flight Log Only" fax machine...?? I am more than dubious as to the legalities and reasoning for this recent installation.
Go on I dare you to send a non-Flight Log from this fax machine and await a call to come in for a recorded interview to explain you actions
When will LKH get his priorities straight, look after his valuable crew and stop trying to vindicate us! Yet another nail in the coffin to vote 'NO' on our EBA!
p.s. So much for taking the word of your crew that they did put the log in and they did press send, shouldn't there be some level of trust there? We don't have the time (with all of our 15 minute sign off) to be waiting around another 10 minutes to ensure a 'Send Successful' message on the machine. Hence the reason why the originals are kept in hard copy, for the glitches in the electronic age, dah!
Go on I dare you to send a non-Flight Log from this fax machine and await a call to come in for a recorded interview to explain you actions
When will LKH get his priorities straight, look after his valuable crew and stop trying to vindicate us! Yet another nail in the coffin to vote 'NO' on our EBA!
p.s. So much for taking the word of your crew that they did put the log in and they did press send, shouldn't there be some level of trust there? We don't have the time (with all of our 15 minute sign off) to be waiting around another 10 minutes to ensure a 'Send Successful' message on the machine. Hence the reason why the originals are kept in hard copy, for the glitches in the electronic age, dah!
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wasnt there a fax in the hangar once upon a time as well? if its still there then surely there wold be a camera on that one too as its the one most ppl used as they went out directly thru the hangar instead of crewroom!
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Singapeuran insecurity maybe?
Who would send a fax these days anyway? If you can't email a document then dont bother.
White sheet and a set of bolt cutters.
Show them your contempt.
EWL
Who would send a fax these days anyway? If you can't email a document then dont bother.
White sheet and a set of bolt cutters.
Show them your contempt.
EWL
So when do the Rex guys do the upgrade onto the Nissan equipment?
You blokes bitch about Rex but they gave you nice new company Nissan Tilda's to drive which are probably equipped with spy cameras as well!!!
You blokes bitch about Rex but they gave you nice new company Nissan Tilda's to drive which are probably equipped with spy cameras as well!!!
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wasnt there a fax in the hangar once upon a time as well? if its still there then surely there wold be a camera on that one too as its the one most ppl used as they went out directly thru the hangar instead of crewroom!
All this has come about because the criteria for REX's maintenance program is dependent on all flight logs being recieved at the end of each days flying! My question is, how does QFlink and the others do it? I'll bet there's no spy camera in their crew room.
Nearly 2 years ago the delays to flights because REX F/O's were required to walk unreasonable distances back and forth from the A/C to the trim room, were starting to impact on OTP. The obvious solution was to employ/retrain several CSO's to act as Load controllers. Just like all the other airlines. For this to occur the CSO's required that they be paid the appropriate rate. Just like all the other airlines. For 6-8 CSO's, this would have cost approx $80k P/A. What, pay more money!!! Not a chance. So what does REX do? They roll out some idiotic PC tablet and printer system so that it can all be done from the flight deck. Sounds logical? Only problem is, it doesn't work, Engineering hate it, and there are all sorts of problems with systems intergration, network coverage and the safety/legalities of using a mobile phone service during refueling! More than 18 months ago the REX Chief Pilot proudly displays his new toy. "These will all be up and operational within 3-6 months"! The Trial of these gizmos has been taking place on and off on different aircraft ever since. Recently it was suspended indefinitely! The cost so far, wait for it... In excess of $600K!
As usual REX management are merely reacting to a situation rather than taking responsibility for it. This latest insult is just another example of that mindset.
Good one REX!
Nearly 2 years ago the delays to flights because REX F/O's were required to walk unreasonable distances back and forth from the A/C to the trim room, were starting to impact on OTP. The obvious solution was to employ/retrain several CSO's to act as Load controllers. Just like all the other airlines. For this to occur the CSO's required that they be paid the appropriate rate. Just like all the other airlines. For 6-8 CSO's, this would have cost approx $80k P/A. What, pay more money!!! Not a chance. So what does REX do? They roll out some idiotic PC tablet and printer system so that it can all be done from the flight deck. Sounds logical? Only problem is, it doesn't work, Engineering hate it, and there are all sorts of problems with systems intergration, network coverage and the safety/legalities of using a mobile phone service during refueling! More than 18 months ago the REX Chief Pilot proudly displays his new toy. "These will all be up and operational within 3-6 months"! The Trial of these gizmos has been taking place on and off on different aircraft ever since. Recently it was suspended indefinitely! The cost so far, wait for it... In excess of $600K!
As usual REX management are merely reacting to a situation rather than taking responsibility for it. This latest insult is just another example of that mindset.
Good one REX!
Hilarious! pissing myself laughing! you guys really need to stop believing your own bull**** about how good you are and accept that you're a 2 bit operation.
Then you need to become a unified pilot group to decide upon and enforce the changes you need. You start with an external audit headed by someone with the experience and knowledge to steer you in the right direction, clearly your management has let you down, this responsibilty rest squarely on the shoulders of the chief pilot. If you want worlds best practice you need the appropriate leadership.
Now get yourselves unified, grow some balls and fix it or accept what you are or have become and stop whining about it.
Then you need to become a unified pilot group to decide upon and enforce the changes you need. You start with an external audit headed by someone with the experience and knowledge to steer you in the right direction, clearly your management has let you down, this responsibilty rest squarely on the shoulders of the chief pilot. If you want worlds best practice you need the appropriate leadership.
Now get yourselves unified, grow some balls and fix it or accept what you are or have become and stop whining about it.
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This is absolutely disgusting. 
They are clearly holding on too tight here.
Firstly, the RexPC need to raise this to explore the legal implications, there has obviously been no consultation or warning for this video surveillance.
Secondly, beware the masked bandit with wire cutters!
Thirdly, vote no.
TC
They are clearly holding on too tight here.Firstly, the RexPC need to raise this to explore the legal implications, there has obviously been no consultation or warning for this video surveillance.
Secondly, beware the masked bandit with wire cutters!
Thirdly, vote no.
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I wonder if this has something to do with a requirement from CASA to independently verify the sending of tech records?
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spy camera
At least that camera is visible to all,but is it actually hooked up? and maybe takes the thought away that thre may well be hidden cameras eklsewhere. Maybe in the loo. Big Brudda is Watching.Hoho. Tried that idea years ago at RPYC in Port Moresby to stop pilfering of bar stocks. The camera was actully a dummy but it stopped theft!
Gidday Lester'.
Not sure about the legalities of using mobile phones suring(sic) refuelling, but I'm pretty sure it aint' kosher to use them "during" refuelling. And the PC tablet that we were using in the cockpit during the turnarounds had one big mother of an antenne attached to it! And the bloody thing still didn't work properly!
As for the VB flight attendant, alas, you may have mistaken me for someone else.
Happy surfing,
Krusty.
Not sure about the legalities of using mobile phones suring(sic) refuelling, but I'm pretty sure it aint' kosher to use them "during" refuelling. And the PC tablet that we were using in the cockpit during the turnarounds had one big mother of an antenne attached to it! And the bloody thing still didn't work properly!
As for the VB flight attendant, alas, you may have mistaken me for someone else.
Happy surfing,
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Wedensday, March 18th 2009
In these recent times of the "Big Brother" phonomonom, regional carrier Regional Express (REX) who flies the Emboeing S340 has taken steps in watching over the crews, however a masked man armed with wire cutters (photographed, above) has taken steps in removing the camera, the masked man uttered just one word "PPRuNe" after showing his disgust for the camera.
I think that about sums up the media and the story here?
... the masked man uttered just one word "PPRuNe" after showing his disgust for the camera.
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Morale Booster
Heard from the BP refueller that REX are starting an initiative to boost morale amongst flightcrew.
The Spy Cams in the Crew Room and Hangar is the first step.
The next step is to let all the FOs know that there are ongoing positions open at REX Crewing and the new EBA (by now it should be called 'Old') allows for cross deparment swaps,skills required: Likes pineapples. The carrot: circa $70,000 per annum, after allowances. Now, that does put an FO's $42k into perspective doesn't it? The truth hurts....
Anyone wants to guess what morale booster Step#3 would be?
Wonder what might surface if someone put a Spycam under LKH's desk?
The Spy Cams in the Crew Room and Hangar is the first step.
The next step is to let all the FOs know that there are ongoing positions open at REX Crewing and the new EBA (by now it should be called 'Old') allows for cross deparment swaps,skills required: Likes pineapples. The carrot: circa $70,000 per annum, after allowances. Now, that does put an FO's $42k into perspective doesn't it? The truth hurts....
Anyone wants to guess what morale booster Step#3 would be?
Wonder what might surface if someone put a Spycam under LKH's desk?
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This is precisely why I left this company. The management and pilots were constantly at war with each other.
Constantly!
Never a mood of "well, how can we make this better for all of us?".
What Big Brother nonsense, and as Krusty says, expensive. What's next? A Grub-o-meter to judge if indeed you really need a new uniform shirt? Please!
Constantly!
Never a mood of "well, how can we make this better for all of us?".
What Big Brother nonsense, and as Krusty says, expensive. What's next? A Grub-o-meter to judge if indeed you really need a new uniform shirt? Please!