V Australia gets an AOC

[inandout]

Somewhereeat1 is correct and they will get EDTO to then fly great circle to JNB from Perth. All this is now in the works, along with as you all know Mel -lax.

[ACMS]

My experience with the Q entertainment system is that the screens are way too dark to see. ( and yes the brightness was up full !! )

[b737800capt06]

Treat Your Staff Well Sir Richard

So Richard, well may they say God save the Queen, because nothing will save the airline that screws it's staff or will it?

I have travelled on many an airline and know cabin crew from many airlines, including CX, QF and Jet Star.

I see the airline industry turning more and more into call centre type operations, with lots of young kids (people aged 19 to 23) joining airlines to see the world - much like joining the Navy (just a whole lot less respect shown by the flying public).

I have heard so much about good/bad conditions for the cabin crew - what do you earn?

I expect that any safety officer (as that is what cabin crew are) should be on a minimum of $50k a year on domestic routes and $65k for international.

I am tired of the world thinking of cabin crew as anything less than critical to any flight for safety reasons - this I know flight crew agree with 100%. (yet airlines do anything to reduce cabin crew numbers? ?

So cabin crew "arm doors and cross check your wages" and join a strong union - because the senior executives won't be taking a pay cut any time soon.

[Going Boeing]

ACMS - My experience with the Q entertainment system is that the screens are way too dark to see. ( and yes the brightness was up full !! )

My understanding is that the screens were designed to have a narrow field of view in order to give a little privacy from neighbourimg pax who may not approve of what you are watching. I found that the tilt is critical in that it should face your chest & you are looking slightly down at the screen to get the best brightness & clarity.

Having observed the early problems that SQ & CX had with their IFE systems, QF installed the Rockwell Collins system having been assured that it was much more reliable technology than the competing systems. History shows that it is not as reliable as promised and may be less reliable than the competitors. The huge cost of these systems make it impractical to rip the RC system out and replace it with another system so we're stuck with it on the B744 and A330 until they are retired from the fleet (although I wouldn't be surprised if the B744ERs are retrofitted).

The new generation Panasonic system fitted to the A380s (& I suspect to the V Oz fleet) is a much better system which has been tested with over 600 screens running with no slowing down of data flow. Also no circuit boards are hardwired to individual screens so if a circuit board fails, the system may operate marginally slower, but all screens will still receive the data stream.

On this thread, if you want to do a true comparison between V Oz & QF then the comparison should be done between the product on V OZ B773s and QF A380s.

[somewhereat1l]

V Australia have gone with the latest touch screen Panasonic EX2 in all cabins

Even better there are no IFE boxes taking up valuable leg room

[aussieboy]

And they are amazing!!!! the a380 product is unreal... something definately they have got right.. well done QF! the V oz product... BORING! 777 out for years.... pay for alcohol in Y... you cant be serious!?

[VBA Engineer]

I expect that any safety officer (as that is what cabin crew are) should be on a minimum of $50k a year on domestic routes and $65k for international.

I am tired of the world thinking of cabin crew as anything less than critical to any flight for safety reasons

Keep it up, you are obviously convincing yourself by the minute.....

[ACMS]

Going Boeing................yeah we tried tilting it at all angles to see if it improved the brightness of the screen, it didn't.

I spoke to the CSM and he said "it's a known problem"

This was on both the A330's, 747-300 and the 400 flights I've been on.

It was sooo bad I gave up watching.
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[Tidbinbilla]

What's this thread about?

Is it about IFE or an AOC?

Let's get back on topic please.

TID