Jetstar announces domestic NZ operations
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Yes the NZD is low but I was paid 80,000 NZD this month. The figure included annual gratuity. I am an Airbus pilot.
I have never paid for an endorsement. I have always worked for well paid carriers. I deserve the coin frankly.
Because I have always worked for well paying carriers and not wasted money paying for endorsements I am wealthy. It is a nice place to be when amongst a generation of pilots who seem to do everything possible to compromise themselves financially.
I have never paid for an endorsement. I have always worked for well paid carriers. I deserve the coin frankly.
Because I have always worked for well paying carriers and not wasted money paying for endorsements I am wealthy. It is a nice place to be when amongst a generation of pilots who seem to do everything possible to compromise themselves financially.
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Just so you can appreciate the cost of living in Auckland-for any oz based operaters.
Kiwis add GST to food ,oz dont (12.5 %)and its x'ey already
Rent for anywhere inside of the gangsta ring is roughly the same as Sydney minus the beaches.
Mobile telephone costs are at least twice as high(insane)
power and gas are about twice as high
Fuel is at least 15% higher
pretty well every time you walk out the door -you will spend.
On the plus. everyone partys hard, the gals are great fun,the people are lovely and the fishing awesome. Don't expect to save and please find a way to enjoy wet windy weather.
Kiwi pilots are great, nice people (i understand why they have such great sailors now) and are used to flying in continuously wet, windy conditions with lots of fog,shear and terrain on pretty short sectors ( I still can't understand why they are paid less)
theres no airforce now either- sooner or later the cost of training willll have to improve the conditions. the average wage could not sustain a pilot training.
Kiwis add GST to food ,oz dont (12.5 %)and its x'ey already
Rent for anywhere inside of the gangsta ring is roughly the same as Sydney minus the beaches.
Mobile telephone costs are at least twice as high(insane)
power and gas are about twice as high
Fuel is at least 15% higher
pretty well every time you walk out the door -you will spend.
On the plus. everyone partys hard, the gals are great fun,the people are lovely and the fishing awesome. Don't expect to save and please find a way to enjoy wet windy weather.
Kiwi pilots are great, nice people (i understand why they have such great sailors now) and are used to flying in continuously wet, windy conditions with lots of fog,shear and terrain on pretty short sectors ( I still can't understand why they are paid less)
theres no airforce now either- sooner or later the cost of training willll have to improve the conditions. the average wage could not sustain a pilot training.
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Find myself having to disagree with some of Neewmans post.
Yes, rent and property prices in AKL are crazy. However, it does have beaches. Infact, on both sides.
Fuel price difference is simply a fuction of how the govt taxes it and the relative strength of the currency, compared to the AU$. Tried buying diesel there mate? Its a lot cheaper. Again, the tax thing.
Disagree about utility prices. Cellphones cost more to run but not double.
Simply false. What you may have meant to say is there is no strike wing. The airforce still trains pilots, albeit not many in the scheme of things. I hope youre right about the pay/conditions tho'!
Yes, rent and property prices in AKL are crazy. However, it does have beaches. Infact, on both sides.
Fuel price difference is simply a fuction of how the govt taxes it and the relative strength of the currency, compared to the AU$. Tried buying diesel there mate? Its a lot cheaper. Again, the tax thing.
Disagree about utility prices. Cellphones cost more to run but not double.
...theres no airforce now either...
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It is a nice place to be when amongst a generation of pilots who seem to do everything possible to compromise themselves financially.
George Soros made BILLIONS by tapping into the same psychology that those suffering SJS exhibit- Reflexivity.
Reflexivity asserts that prices do in fact influence the fundamentals and that these newly-influenced set of fundamentals then proceed to change expectations, thus influencing prices; the process continues in a self-reinforcing pattern. Because the pattern is self-reinforcing, markets tend towards disequilibrium. Sooner or later they reach a point where the sentiment is reversed and negative expectations become self-reinforcing in the downward direction, thereby explaining the familiar pattern of boom and bust cycles
In a nutshell, as applied to the pilot market, reflexivity implies that wage declines cause both managers & pilots to expect further declines in the future. ie pilots are talking themselves into lower wages, all the managers have to do is stand by and agree (and pocket the difference as a bonus).
Agreeing to lower wages will lower your wages in the future.
Remember, this is not some abstract theoretical concept, this guy broke the Bank of England.
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I am three steps ahead of the generation of trash that seems to be proliferating.
I am sure they will catch up eventually. Won't matter to me. I am wealthy because of my industry.
I am sure they will catch up eventually. Won't matter to me. I am wealthy because of my industry.
Go on tell us where you work. Help a brother out!!
I live in the generation of trash (sometimes its not all bad), and am trying to make my way through the bottle neck.
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Come on you lot stop bickering and apply for the jobs. Queenstown will make you feel Alive. On a good day, but mostly make you glad to still be alive. Then there's Wellington waiting to bite, Will miss the snack bags but not the $200.00 fine from Maf when you forget it's still in your nav bag. 
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Queenstown will make you feel Alive. On a good day, but mostly make you glad to still be alive
Your right though, If they just paid more though!!!!
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Correct me if I’m wrong but with Qantas replacing NZ domestic with Jokestar mean all of Qantas' business passengers no longer have a "choice" and will simply fly with Air NZ.
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I was sitting next to a business traveller on Qantas the other night from AA to WN. Asked him what he thought and how it would affect him. He said he didn't give a toss. Currently travels on Qantas, ANZ and Pac Blue. As long as the schedule suited him and he got there on time. Not good if he has to cancel dozens of oppointments he spent most of the week organising just because his carrier of choice can't maintain an acceptable OTP. His other comment was that provided Qantas leave their lounges here with Jetstar he would travel on them. Air NewZealand already a low cost carirer domestically. I don't think there will be as many swing to ANZ as Rob Fyffe might be led to believe.
Have you seen the amount of travellers in suits travelling with Pac Blue lately? Heaps. One reason. They're always on time. New aeroplanes I guess? I'm thinking Jetstar will pee all over the current Jetconnect OTP with their shinny new jets flown by Jimmy.
Have you seen the amount of travellers in suits travelling with Pac Blue lately? Heaps. One reason. They're always on time. New aeroplanes I guess? I'm thinking Jetstar will pee all over the current Jetconnect OTP with their shinny new jets flown by Jimmy.
Always easy to fly on time with only three aircraft (unless one breaks down), no interline connections, no freight, little hold stowed baggage and almost no disabled pax. However if you miss the flight tough t*tty we owe you nothing!
Pilots being pilots always think full aircraft = making money. They never think yield!
The suits might all be paying for it personally going to job interviews
Pilots being pilots always think full aircraft = making money. They never think yield!
The suits might all be paying for it personally going to job interviews
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jetstar interviews
Any info on the interviews are they still going on or have they finished.Anyone offered a job if so whats the offer like.How many are they taking in all. Capts, FOs.when will the operations start.
OxidantMate, have you got the right to work in NZ?
If not, it doesn't matter......
I think you'll find if J* can't get the required experience from within AUS and NZ then our American mate may well have access to a visa downunder. Look at PB with a German and an American already flying for them, both of those guys are on work visa's, time will tell I guess?
If not, it doesn't matter......
I think you'll find if J* can't get the required experience from within AUS and NZ then our American mate may well have access to a visa downunder. Look at PB with a German and an American already flying for them, both of those guys are on work visa's, time will tell I guess?
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Mate, have you got the right to work in NZ?
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This is straight from their website.
Otherwise e-mail them before you make plans.....
"[email protected]"
What are the minimum requirements to join Jetstar Airways?
The minimum requirements for selection as a pilot in Jetstar Airways are;
* Hold or be eligible to hold an Australian ATPL or New Zealand equivalent,
* Have passes in all Australian ATPL subjects or New Zealand equivalent,
* Hold, or be eligible to hold, an Australian Class 1 Multi-Engine Command Instrument Rating or New Zealand equivalent,
* Current Class 1 Medical Certificate,
* Hold, or be eligible to hold, relevant New Zealand Permanent Residency status or an Unrestricted Right to Work in New Zealand,
* Hold ICAO Level 6 English Language Proficiency
* Possess strong and effective team working competencies,
* Be committed to service excellence.
Otherwise e-mail them before you make plans.....
"[email protected]"
What are the minimum requirements to join Jetstar Airways?
The minimum requirements for selection as a pilot in Jetstar Airways are;
* Hold or be eligible to hold an Australian ATPL or New Zealand equivalent,
* Have passes in all Australian ATPL subjects or New Zealand equivalent,
* Hold, or be eligible to hold, an Australian Class 1 Multi-Engine Command Instrument Rating or New Zealand equivalent,
* Current Class 1 Medical Certificate,
* Hold, or be eligible to hold, relevant New Zealand Permanent Residency status or an Unrestricted Right to Work in New Zealand,
* Hold ICAO Level 6 English Language Proficiency
* Possess strong and effective team working competencies,
* Be committed to service excellence.
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theres sum add on he air nz website,* about changing your qantas club membership to koru club,* looks like air nz* are making the most hey can out of it
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how many guys are going to apply
I knew a few guys with 1000+ hrs on airbus who are looking at working in jetstar new club ,but with the news coming up of cost of living it looking very difficult to take the job.I note on the last 8 pages of posts there is a large group of pilots who are very unhappy at anyone who takes the job ,but if you dont have a job and are airbus experienced its hard to say no.I just cant understand why JETSTAR WOULD OFFER SUCH LOW CONDITIONS.
A.N.Z are paying 107K,the others are paying less but the salary for jetstar was just too funny to even mention
A.N.Z are paying 107K,the others are paying less but the salary for jetstar was just too funny to even mention