Layoffs at Skywest
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I've heard conflicting stories re the 2 departinfg F100s. ALL from inside the company. Seems not even XR knows whats going on.
As for the meals, of course the company would prefer to supply some grub. It would probably cost them somewhere between 5 and 10 bucks a meal as opposed to the much higher allowance dictated by the ATO. I too would prefer the allowance. At least I could buy something decent.
As for the meals, of course the company would prefer to supply some grub. It would probably cost them somewhere between 5 and 10 bucks a meal as opposed to the much higher allowance dictated by the ATO. I too would prefer the allowance. At least I could buy something decent.
its all a restructure...
Retirements fuel Skywest layoffs
Monday, 15 December 2008
Western Australian regional carrier Skywest Airlines has restructured operations, resulting in the loss of 19 staff.
Group chief operating officer Mike Hoar said the retrenchments were part of normal operations.
"No company likes letting go of staff, particularly at this time of the year, but it's a tough market," said Hoar.
"Fortunately, many of the redundancies were due to early retirements and natural attrition." He said the decision was made some time ago and was not influenced by the news that mining giant Rio Tinto was also planning to cut its workforce. Skywest recently won the contract to transport workers to Rio's mine sites in Western Australia using Fokker 100 aircraft.
Hoar said the carrier was fortunate in having a good mix of RPT (regular passenger transport) and charter work which would continue to operate as scheduled. Skywest had no plans for new routes but was looking for opportunities to expand the network.
Monday, 15 December 2008
Western Australian regional carrier Skywest Airlines has restructured operations, resulting in the loss of 19 staff.
Group chief operating officer Mike Hoar said the retrenchments were part of normal operations.
"No company likes letting go of staff, particularly at this time of the year, but it's a tough market," said Hoar.
"Fortunately, many of the redundancies were due to early retirements and natural attrition." He said the decision was made some time ago and was not influenced by the news that mining giant Rio Tinto was also planning to cut its workforce. Skywest recently won the contract to transport workers to Rio's mine sites in Western Australia using Fokker 100 aircraft.
Hoar said the carrier was fortunate in having a good mix of RPT (regular passenger transport) and charter work which would continue to operate as scheduled. Skywest had no plans for new routes but was looking for opportunities to expand the network.
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That media realease is blatantly not true!! Does not at all align with what staff were told and how the terminations were handled.
Shocking! Unebelievable! And why is it Mike Hoar signed off and not CEO or MD?
Shocking! Unebelievable! And why is it Mike Hoar signed off and not CEO or MD?
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And why is it Mike Hoar signed off and not CEO or MD?
Hardly very newsworthy if you ask me!
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You seem to have something against Skywest.
While no one likes to see layoff's, it is going to be a very tough year not just for skywest but also all the other operators at Perth due to the mines contracting. So maybe their management are making some sound but very hard decisions to ensure a future. Lets just hope skywest and all the other operators wont have to let any more people go. Remember we are all in this industry together. Just my 2 cents worth.
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You seem to have something against Skywest.
While no one likes to see layoff's, it is going to be a very tough year not just for skywest but also all the other operators at Perth due to the mines contracting. So maybe their management are making some sound but very hard decisions to ensure a future. Lets just hope skywest and all the other operators wont have to let any more people go. Remember we are all in this industry together. Just my 2 cents worth.
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I just know that there are quite a few staff suffering the shock of a surprise termination, immediately before christmas - and to now play it down as if it is a matter of course and normal business is just disrespectful and a slap in the face. How about the Chief Pilot, who moved from Asia to take up the position - is this "normal attrition"? Or is he a voluntary early retiree?
The cabin crew trainees, several moved themselves across to WA from east coast, to be terminated without notice. Many staff extremely peeved that voluntary redundancies or part time options were not called for first, so that some staff may have been saved.
This is just not playing fair!
I question why Mike Hoar because every other release goes out under name of CEO or MD - why don't they also put their name to this piece of news???
Wake up!!
The cabin crew trainees, several moved themselves across to WA from east coast, to be terminated without notice. Many staff extremely peeved that voluntary redundancies or part time options were not called for first, so that some staff may have been saved.
This is just not playing fair!
I question why Mike Hoar because every other release goes out under name of CEO or MD - why don't they also put their name to this piece of news???
Wake up!!
Why would the CEO or MD be bothered with a press statement concerning staff reductions due to retirements and natural attrition?
Because thats his Job. There is no such thing as redundancies due to natural attrition and retirement, they are all very separate and individual entities.
I'm guessing with the loss of two F100's the next round of redundancies will be quite significant.
We'll know soon enough.
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Xeptu makes a very good point.
"Natural attrition" means resignations or retirements that are not replaced, thereby reducing overall staff numbers. This is good business in tough times and relatively painless to staff.
Retirement is retirement - I think that is pretty clear, and nothing at all to do with terminations or redundancies.
In this case, a whole bunch of people (30 was the number touted by those close to the action, not 19 but either way it is a big number) were terminated without notice. This event in no way resembles "natural attrition" or "retirement"! To claim this is normal business and was planned is just simply a nonense! If it was planned, why did they continue to hire new staff right up to a week before the redundancies? Why did a new ground school go through just weeks prior? Why did they continue to tout how well the company is going with winning new business (shareholder releases - growth, growth, growth). They appear to have significantly over hired and have too many aircraft (?) and seem to have to reduce the buisiness size.
Apologies for the bit of passion in my last posts - I was flat out gobsmacked when I read that press release!~
"Natural attrition" means resignations or retirements that are not replaced, thereby reducing overall staff numbers. This is good business in tough times and relatively painless to staff.
Retirement is retirement - I think that is pretty clear, and nothing at all to do with terminations or redundancies.
In this case, a whole bunch of people (30 was the number touted by those close to the action, not 19 but either way it is a big number) were terminated without notice. This event in no way resembles "natural attrition" or "retirement"! To claim this is normal business and was planned is just simply a nonense! If it was planned, why did they continue to hire new staff right up to a week before the redundancies? Why did a new ground school go through just weeks prior? Why did they continue to tout how well the company is going with winning new business (shareholder releases - growth, growth, growth). They appear to have significantly over hired and have too many aircraft (?) and seem to have to reduce the buisiness size.
Apologies for the bit of passion in my last posts - I was flat out gobsmacked when I read that press release!~
even if they do lose 2 x F100's as some suggest they are going to they will still have 6 in the fleet which is fairly good going considering 5 years ago they had 1.
also there has been nothing official to indicate any of their existing contracts have been lost or are in danger of going that way.
also there has been nothing official to indicate any of their existing contracts have been lost or are in danger of going that way.
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Betwixt, you beat me to it.
So that is what they call sacking an entire ground school right after their CTL...? Lovely.
XRlent, so what if s/he was? I would be pretty damn peeved if I'd been laid off with no notice and then the management had the gall to turn around and say it was 'natural attrition' and 'retirement'- I can guarantee you that not one of those poor new-hires wanted to go anywhere! Especially after they upped and left the eastern states at their own expense.
Yes it's a sucky economic situation at the moment but they could have shown a bit more respect to the people they just Sh!t on...
I feel sorry for MH, he was one of a few decent ones left, he's had his name put to that crap when we all know whre it came from... seems like now it's get business done like some other operators we know of in Perth renowned for lack of people skills...
Now if XR were to turn aorund and hire in a few months time when they realise they need those staff again, would the recently-terminated have any legal recourse to those jobs back?? Not that they'd want to go back probably...
due to retirements and natural attrition?
XRlent, so what if s/he was? I would be pretty damn peeved if I'd been laid off with no notice and then the management had the gall to turn around and say it was 'natural attrition' and 'retirement'- I can guarantee you that not one of those poor new-hires wanted to go anywhere! Especially after they upped and left the eastern states at their own expense.
Yes it's a sucky economic situation at the moment but they could have shown a bit more respect to the people they just Sh!t on...
I feel sorry for MH, he was one of a few decent ones left, he's had his name put to that crap when we all know whre it came from... seems like now it's get business done like some other operators we know of in Perth renowned for lack of people skills...
Now if XR were to turn aorund and hire in a few months time when they realise they need those staff again, would the recently-terminated have any legal recourse to those jobs back?? Not that they'd want to go back probably...
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XRlent - in answer to your question, no I am not, and I'm not sure the relevence to the discussion if I was in any case. Colleagues and friends are amongst those that have been terminated, and that is enough to pique my concern and to cause me to be looking for answers.
Why do you ask - are you one of the people that is selecting staff for redundancies? (said tounge in cheek).
I don't believe pprune requires one to reveal their identity, so lets both refrain from asking these type of questions.
Perhaps this thread has reached its natural close. In the absence of any further information, the choice is to accept the "natural attrition" and "retirement" explanation as the answer to the original question of this thread, hope for the best and move on with faith in our leaders.
Why do you ask - are you one of the people that is selecting staff for redundancies? (said tounge in cheek).
I don't believe pprune requires one to reveal their identity, so lets both refrain from asking these type of questions.
Perhaps this thread has reached its natural close. In the absence of any further information, the choice is to accept the "natural attrition" and "retirement" explanation as the answer to the original question of this thread, hope for the best and move on with faith in our leaders.
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Those F/A's that were terminated have been told they will be offered positions in the next ground school. In the meantime the F/A manager came in to find these eastern staters positions elsewhere until the next ground school.
Betwixt, the reason I ask is that it seems to be getting personal for you.
Betwixt, the reason I ask is that it seems to be getting personal for you.
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Betwixt and Between Iam with you on this. The Board and management of this company have been very aggressive in the market place over the past 18 months undercutting to get contracts and as I said in my previous post. It is easy to do this when times are good. It all comes home when the going gets hard. and its those at bottom who suffer. I feel sorry for those who have committed to this company and lost jobs just before Christmas. Those at the top need to take a good look at themseves.
I am not employed by SkyWest!
Of course its a poor show if it happened as Betwixt and Between suggests.
Whether he is directly affected or not is irrelevant.
It should be commented on whether it is SkyWest or any other employer. I bet if were any other two bit operater you would all be on here adding your two cents.
I don’t really understand why they would be recruiting from the eastern states?
Why would some one from the real world chose to move to WA anyway?
Of course its a poor show if it happened as Betwixt and Between suggests.
Whether he is directly affected or not is irrelevant.
It should be commented on whether it is SkyWest or any other employer. I bet if were any other two bit operater you would all be on here adding your two cents.
I don’t really understand why they would be recruiting from the eastern states?
Why would some one from the real world chose to move to WA anyway?
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ROH 111 makes a very valid point. Is it 2 XR F100's being handed back or two other F100's?
Until just recently Skywest were allegedly still short on A/C and crews with their 8. It would appear odd they were downsizing their fleet with extra work.
Until just recently Skywest were allegedly still short on A/C and crews with their 8. It would appear odd they were downsizing their fleet with extra work.
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How about keeping those grounded CC on as ground staff in the meantime til anothe g/s goes through... god knows they need 'em in the mornings when it gets busy... even as ramp runners for the a/c paperwork as it seem Aerocare still love running short of staff even during peak periods...
And what are they supposed to do, go get another job and then just drop it when XR tell them to? I wouldn't be so trusting the next time round either, in fact I'd be tempted to tel them what to do with their job!!
As said, if it was Skippers or NJS who did this, the posters would be in an uproar! It just seems very badly done for a company who likes to make themselvesseem to be a 'leader' in WA!
And what are they supposed to do, go get another job and then just drop it when XR tell them to? I wouldn't be so trusting the next time round either, in fact I'd be tempted to tel them what to do with their job!!
As said, if it was Skippers or NJS who did this, the posters would be in an uproar! It just seems very badly done for a company who likes to make themselvesseem to be a 'leader' in WA!
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3 AME's got the sack the other day
FNJ, FNT, FNY have all been parked up and Skywest told not to touch them as they didn't pay the lease on them. They chose to pay the staff than the leases on the aircraft. Certainly interesting times ahead. Either way you look at it, its not good at all. I counted 6 F100's on the ground and 3 F50's doing nothing on a sunday compared to QFLink and others flying all their aircraft.
FNJ, FNT, FNY have all been parked up and Skywest told not to touch them as they didn't pay the lease on them. They chose to pay the staff than the leases on the aircraft. Certainly interesting times ahead. Either way you look at it, its not good at all. I counted 6 F100's on the ground and 3 F50's doing nothing on a sunday compared to QFLink and others flying all their aircraft.