NZRO trans tas from June 09??
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Ah, thanks for that. Wasn't sure about the current situation.
I actually think Air NZ should put 737s back through HLZ at peak times. The morning ATRs and the Dash generally seem to load pretty well. Of course there's no contest on efficency.
I actually think Air NZ should put 737s back through HLZ at peak times. The morning ATRs and the Dash generally seem to load pretty well. Of course there's no contest on efficency.
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Come on guys, Rotovegas rocks..from the luge..to black-power down the main drag on a Friday and Sat nite
Actually, I think the place has its on little niche in NZ tourism terms, its unusually (for the North Island) quite well set up for the tourist trade.
To get some perspective on this, some of you need to visit Europe through the summer holidays..and the ski resorts in the winter, Rotovegas actually scores quite well IMHO.
Is that enough to attract a bunch of knuckle dragging sore losers in sufficient quantities from across the Tasman I'm not so sure...but then thats why I fly aeroplanes..rather than sell seats.
Actually, I think the place has its on little niche in NZ tourism terms, its unusually (for the North Island) quite well set up for the tourist trade.
To get some perspective on this, some of you need to visit Europe through the summer holidays..and the ski resorts in the winter, Rotovegas actually scores quite well IMHO.
Is that enough to attract a bunch of knuckle dragging sore losers in sufficient quantities from across the Tasman I'm not so sure...but then thats why I fly aeroplanes..rather than sell seats.
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Taumarunui is close to Ruapehu and taupo as well. Why not put it there? Its got an NDB. Rangi and honei can do the check in at the aeroclub, it will be choice as bro.
Pleased im not paying rates in rotovegas, what a waste. 1000+ft mda on the VOR and crosswind limitations make it pretty hard to operate jets in there. Hamilton isnt that much further from Taupo and Ruapehu and that didnt work. most of the tourists on the jets are asian or yanks who fly into AA on prebooked tours, the money would be better spent widening to runway.
Pleased im not paying rates in rotovegas, what a waste. 1000+ft mda on the VOR and crosswind limitations make it pretty hard to operate jets in there. Hamilton isnt that much further from Taupo and Ruapehu and that didnt work. most of the tourists on the jets are asian or yanks who fly into AA on prebooked tours, the money would be better spent widening to runway.
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hell, why not waiouru, security wouldnt be a problem, and the flamin mountain is right next door
I seem to recall the carrot festival just down the road was a fun day out
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Widening the runway, yes, but other considerations are also required like types of approach, RNP perhaps, allowing jets down to a lower altitude, and strengthening the runway to take heavier jets, especially those that will be heading back across the ditch. There is also approach profiles to be considered especially with longer runways and then the local politics relating to the marae at the northern end of the runway and it goes on and on.
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NZRO NOT going to happen now??
21/Nov
While Rotorua's airport is being upgraded to be ready for international flights by June, there is apparently no interest from the airlines.
Both Air New Zealand and Qantas have confirmed they have no plans to have trans-Tasman flights service Rotorua despite the $8.4 million airport extension, reports TravelTrade New Zealand.
It also quotes a Pacific Blue spokesman as saying the airline has no plans to launch a Rotorua service.
While Rotorua mayor Kevin Winter has said the airport company is "talking closely" with international carriers "seriously interested" in the route, air services between Hamilton and Sydney and the Gold Coast have been suspended from March to October.
Tasman Pacific's New Zealand general manager Glen Sowry has attributed this to week demand and an oversupply of trans-Tasman services from Auckland.
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There was also another story grizzling about how spending on libraries, facilites etc were in jeopardy due the big spend at airport.
While Rotorua's airport is being upgraded to be ready for international flights by June, there is apparently no interest from the airlines.
Both Air New Zealand and Qantas have confirmed they have no plans to have trans-Tasman flights service Rotorua despite the $8.4 million airport extension, reports TravelTrade New Zealand.
It also quotes a Pacific Blue spokesman as saying the airline has no plans to launch a Rotorua service.
While Rotorua mayor Kevin Winter has said the airport company is "talking closely" with international carriers "seriously interested" in the route, air services between Hamilton and Sydney and the Gold Coast have been suspended from March to October.
Tasman Pacific's New Zealand general manager Glen Sowry has attributed this to week demand and an oversupply of trans-Tasman services from Auckland.
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There was also another story grizzling about how spending on libraries, facilites etc were in jeopardy due the big spend at airport.
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Letter I wrote to the editor of our local Rotorua paper regarding this issue.
Basically, I can see both sides but I'm not convinced it will happen and be a success. Though I would love to see international flights from my local airport.
I am excited to see work at Rotorua airport going ahead, and I hope to see international flights operating from Rotorua soon.
However, I am not entirely convinced that they will be a complete success. First of all, both Qantas and Air New Zealand are quickly losing enthusiasm and commitment for the Rotorua market. Air New Zealand are supposedly withdrawing domestic jet services from Rotorua next season (which may come as a major blow - retaining these jet services has been high in the list of priorities for Rotorua), and Qantas apparently only serves Rotorua because of contractual reasons. Pacific Blue does not yet fly to Rotorua, neither does Jetstar (although there are several rumours regarding Jetstar), and the current economic climate may prevent any airline expansion for the forseeable future. There are essentially no other airlines in a realistic position to serve Rotorua.
Furthermore, TravelTrade New Zealand has said that both Air New Zealand and Qantas have confirmed that they have no plans to operate trans-Tasman flights from Rotorua.
In addition, the provincial airports have not traditionally been successes when it comes to international flying. Hamilton, Dunedin and Palmerston North have all seen downturns in passenger numbers and cuts in service. Queenstown is the notable exception - it is a tourist trap that continues to enjoy high demand and high levels of service. The recent New Zealand Aviation Overview released by the Ministry of Tourism further reiterated this fact.
Of course, Rotorua is a considerable tourist market, although this mainly comes from Asia rather than from Australia. For this reason, international flights are more feasible from Rotorua than they are from many of the other provincial airports who would like such services. I think there is huge potential for international services from Rotorua and would love to see it happen, although I'm not convinced that they will be an ultimate success. I am hopeful, but cautious where Rotorua trans-Tasman services are concerned - a huge amount of money and work is required, and I would hate to see it all go to waste.
Basically, I can see both sides but I'm not convinced it will happen and be a success. Though I would love to see international flights from my local airport.
I am excited to see work at Rotorua airport going ahead, and I hope to see international flights operating from Rotorua soon.
However, I am not entirely convinced that they will be a complete success. First of all, both Qantas and Air New Zealand are quickly losing enthusiasm and commitment for the Rotorua market. Air New Zealand are supposedly withdrawing domestic jet services from Rotorua next season (which may come as a major blow - retaining these jet services has been high in the list of priorities for Rotorua), and Qantas apparently only serves Rotorua because of contractual reasons. Pacific Blue does not yet fly to Rotorua, neither does Jetstar (although there are several rumours regarding Jetstar), and the current economic climate may prevent any airline expansion for the forseeable future. There are essentially no other airlines in a realistic position to serve Rotorua.
Furthermore, TravelTrade New Zealand has said that both Air New Zealand and Qantas have confirmed that they have no plans to operate trans-Tasman flights from Rotorua.
In addition, the provincial airports have not traditionally been successes when it comes to international flying. Hamilton, Dunedin and Palmerston North have all seen downturns in passenger numbers and cuts in service. Queenstown is the notable exception - it is a tourist trap that continues to enjoy high demand and high levels of service. The recent New Zealand Aviation Overview released by the Ministry of Tourism further reiterated this fact.
Of course, Rotorua is a considerable tourist market, although this mainly comes from Asia rather than from Australia. For this reason, international flights are more feasible from Rotorua than they are from many of the other provincial airports who would like such services. I think there is huge potential for international services from Rotorua and would love to see it happen, although I'm not convinced that they will be an ultimate success. I am hopeful, but cautious where Rotorua trans-Tasman services are concerned - a huge amount of money and work is required, and I would hate to see it all go to waste.
a huge amount of money and work is required, and I would hate to see it all go to waste.
Rotorua is a considerable tourist market, although this mainly comes from Asia rather than from Australia
