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Some things never cgange!
I did 23 years with PX from DC3 captain to Fleet Captain Check and Training Standards and can assure everybody that the poor management, morale, lousy pay, expatriate vs national, lack of vision, did I say poor management? remains the same as it was when we started off in 1973.
Once the Nationals got into control of the airline it deteriorated in every area - granted we had it pretty good until the late '90's but to see an airline with such tremendous potential destroyed by incompetant management was and still is a dreadful shame.
I finished up number 3 on the seniority list before I left in '97 so had the best of the pickings most of my working life with the airline but get pretty depressed to see all the good work we did up there slowly being whiteanted by politicians (always a problem), corruption, inexperience, low morale and tragic management.
Damn shame!
Once the Nationals got into control of the airline it deteriorated in every area - granted we had it pretty good until the late '90's but to see an airline with such tremendous potential destroyed by incompetant management was and still is a dreadful shame.
I finished up number 3 on the seniority list before I left in '97 so had the best of the pickings most of my working life with the airline but get pretty depressed to see all the good work we did up there slowly being whiteanted by politicians (always a problem), corruption, inexperience, low morale and tragic management.
Damn shame!
but to see an airline with such tremendous potential destroyed by incompetant management was and still is a dreadful shame.
there slowly being whiteanted by politicians (always a problem), corruption, inexperience, low morale and tragic management.
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Yes, RetiredTooEarly, and it dosn't stop at the border, - the same thing happened next door, and is ongoing - Damned Shame !, - considering the potential - but if that is the way they want it, they are entitled to the consequences of their actions. ( Just make our efforts seem futile to aim for some better outcome.. )
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PX Engineering
Fact is the Canadian GM Engineering refused to extend his employment past his present expiry date, due to personality conflicts on the fourth floor, Srilankan QA and CEO.
The Canadian Maintenance Manager #2 IC of engineering was terminated last week and it looks like most of the European Engineers keeping the F100 fleet defect free will leave before July. (not good if you fly a Fokker at PX)
Engineering has others reportedly planning to leave as this worsens and the department looks like it will close heavy maintenance due to a lack of leadership.
This leaves me wondering how they expect to bring in more aircraft (DHC-8-400) and keep the fleet safe with so much change. Stability should be the order of the day.
The Administration Manager and Properties Managers got terminated in a house cleaning, so it looks contagious.
Not much to be proud about there at the moment.
The CEO and board are still buying more aircraft however so that seems to be good business.
APNG must be watching with interest.
The Canadian Maintenance Manager #2 IC of engineering was terminated last week and it looks like most of the European Engineers keeping the F100 fleet defect free will leave before July. (not good if you fly a Fokker at PX)
Engineering has others reportedly planning to leave as this worsens and the department looks like it will close heavy maintenance due to a lack of leadership.
This leaves me wondering how they expect to bring in more aircraft (DHC-8-400) and keep the fleet safe with so much change. Stability should be the order of the day.
The Administration Manager and Properties Managers got terminated in a house cleaning, so it looks contagious.
Not much to be proud about there at the moment.
The CEO and board are still buying more aircraft however so that seems to be good business.
APNG must be watching with interest.
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"The CEO and board are still buying more aircraft however so that seems to be good business."
Never mind the heavy maintenance, forget the morale, bugger the service delivery and ignore the safety implications. But always remember Rule 1 of the Colombo business college - "The necessity for purchase of any item is directly proportional to the number of brown envelopes generated by the transaction."
Can anyone remember why, in the early 2000's, the Q400 was rejected as unsuitable by PX after the visit of the demonstrator aircraft?
"The CEO and board are still buying more aircraft however so that seems to be good business."
Never mind the heavy maintenance, forget the morale, bugger the service delivery and ignore the safety implications. But always remember Rule 1 of the Colombo business college - "The necessity for purchase of any item is directly proportional to the number of brown envelopes generated by the transaction."
Can anyone remember why, in the early 2000's, the Q400 was rejected as unsuitable by PX after the visit of the demonstrator aircraft?
What about expats being entitled to long service leave ? My sources tell me that an outgoing engineer has raised the question and people in ANG house are running for cover.
Could be a precedence set here chaps !!!!!
Could be a precedence set here chaps !!!!!
It appears that contracts at PX aren't worth the paper they are written on, as the company keeps changing the goal posts to suite themselves. I believe the person concerned does have something in writing from many moons before.
My sources also advise me that it is the law in PNG for any employee (expat or national) who is taxed in PNG to be entitled to LSL, it starts accumulating after 3 years of service I believe.
I also though the idea was a novel concept when I first heard of it, but it appears there may be some substance to it. I do know that APNG pay it.
My sources also advise me that it is the law in PNG for any employee (expat or national) who is taxed in PNG to be entitled to LSL, it starts accumulating after 3 years of service I believe.
I also though the idea was a novel concept when I first heard of it, but it appears there may be some substance to it. I do know that APNG pay it.
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Whagi warrior wrote:
"It appears that contracts at PX aren't worth the paper they are written on, as the company keeps changing the goal posts to suite themselves. I believe the person concerned does have something in writing from many moons before.
My sources also advise me that it is the law in PNG for any employee (expat or national) who is taxed in PNG to be entitled to LSL, it starts accumulating after 3 years of service I believe. "
I go along with that. There have been instances where this has been challenged successfully in the past. Unfortunately those companies that don't live up to their legal responsibilties know that the likelihood of being held to account through the legal system is quite remote. Most expats do not stay long enough to have an amount owing to them that would withstand the legal cost of recovering it.
You don't have to look far to find unscrupulous management in PNG aviation companies!
"It appears that contracts at PX aren't worth the paper they are written on, as the company keeps changing the goal posts to suite themselves. I believe the person concerned does have something in writing from many moons before.
My sources also advise me that it is the law in PNG for any employee (expat or national) who is taxed in PNG to be entitled to LSL, it starts accumulating after 3 years of service I believe. "
I go along with that. There have been instances where this has been challenged successfully in the past. Unfortunately those companies that don't live up to their legal responsibilties know that the likelihood of being held to account through the legal system is quite remote. Most expats do not stay long enough to have an amount owing to them that would withstand the legal cost of recovering it.
You don't have to look far to find unscrupulous management in PNG aviation companies!
Rumour has it that they are about to ramp up recruiting again. I'm sure they won't get many applicants until they drop their requirements down to 2500 hrs again. Who with 4000 hrs would even bother applying for a slot as an FO on a Dash 8 when they can get a job in Oz flying a jet. Most of the last lot of pilots offered jobs actually said yes, but no thanks after seeing first hand how badly managed the company is. Funny thing is that the company even have a couple of Dash 8 Captains with under 4000 hrs TT. PX is really a training ground for pilots to move onto other larger/better airlines, Virgin Blue especially.
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Is Airnogat's requirements still 4000tt, 1500 command on a twin with ATPL?. If that is the case you are right W.W they have to lower their reqmts for them to get the numbers they want, if the rumors are correct that they are getting 2 Q400 and 3Q300s by the end of the year.
Yer Wantok their requirements are 4000 TT. Sad thing is there are quite a large number of very experienced PNG based pilots with around 3000 hours + who's applications just get placed into the round filing cabinet on the 4th floor.
Also the latest rumour going around the place is that the company is looking at replacing all the existing Dash 8's with brand new ATR's. I believe that Bombardier aren't going to continue to support the 100/200/300's with spares.
Also the latest rumour going around the place is that the company is looking at replacing all the existing Dash 8's with brand new ATR's. I believe that Bombardier aren't going to continue to support the 100/200/300's with spares.
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I bet they are only looking/talking ATR's because the other side (A/PNG) are getting them sometime soon? Time will tell whether they are suited or not for all the PNG ports. I doubt whether anything will ever be as good as the Dash 8 currently is for both operators.
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70 people in the tropics with no APU
Bad enough in Auckland never mind PNG. I believe there are hot and high versions but the average ATR 72 is quite an ordinary performer.
Bad enough in Auckland never mind PNG. I believe there are hot and high versions but the average ATR 72 is quite an ordinary performer.
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APNG staff are watching with interest with their management not that much better, I have heard a few have jump ship to ANG already and quite a few are looking at crossing over. I have heard that the new management is taking a good business and flushing it down the toilet.
I can't comment on later models of the ATR42 series, but when the decision was made in Talair to buy two DHC8-100 aircraft in the early 1980s, the ATR42 was rejected due to lack of an APU and it's short field performance was unsuitable for Talair's needs in inter Provincial services.
At the time three ATR42s were operated by Air Queensland and their operational staff agreed with our assessment of the two aircraft types.
The ATR may be OK for specific contractual services or main center services, but at the time the ATR42 could not compare to the DHC8-100 at places like Chimbu, Mendi, Tari etc.
At the time three ATR42s were operated by Air Queensland and their operational staff agreed with our assessment of the two aircraft types.
The ATR may be OK for specific contractual services or main center services, but at the time the ATR42 could not compare to the DHC8-100 at places like Chimbu, Mendi, Tari etc.
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Well Gents I myself dont know much about ATRs all I have heard around 7 miles is that the ATR came with a promise of a TAS of 275kts and better endurance but when the a/c arrived for a trial run its no faster than the 100 running that route now .I guess time will tell if the ATR is a good choice for PNG but for now the Dash works. APNG, A.N and those boys based up at Tabubil will testify to that.