V Australia Operations DELAYED TO FEB09
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Well a little birdie just told me that shortly the Boeing folk will be back on the job so they have probably escaped penalty payments and will be back into it....
So the Tripllers will eventually be ready........
So the Tripllers will eventually be ready........
The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) announced today that it reached a tentative agreement with the Boeing Company on a contract that will provide job security for its members and limit the amount of work outside vendors can perform in the workplace.
The agreement was hammered out over a five-day period with assistance from federal mediators and participation at the bargaining table by IAM International President Tom Buffenbarger and IAM General Vice President Rich Michalski. Additional resources and technical support was provided by various departments at IAM headquarters.
Job security and the use of vendors were key issues in the strike that began on Sept. 6, 2008. Among the other issues resolved in the latest round of bargaining were wage rates, health care benefits for current and future employees, pension improvements and work rule changes designed to improve productivity.
Full details of the 4-year accord will be withheld until they can be compiled and distributed to IAM members in all Boeing locations.
The tentative agreement has the unanimous endorsement of the IAM negotiating committee and will be presented to members for a ratification vote, which will take place in 3-5 days. A simple majority is required to ratify the tentative agreement.
"After 52 days of striking, we have gained important and substantial improvements over the Company's last, best and final offer that was rejected on September 3rd. Your solidarity brought Boeing back to the table and made this Company address your issues," stated District 751 President Tom Wroblewski. "Each of you stood up and did your part to win this battle, which was a fight against more than just Boeing, but against corporate America. Boeing is profitable because of our members' hard work and by standing together our members ensured they receive a bigger share of those profits."
"This tentative agreement is the result of hard work and great sacrifice by many people," said IAM Aerospace Coordinator Mark Blondin. "But no one deserves more credit than the workers at Boeing, who conducted themselves with dignity and determination throughout this ordeal. On behalf of the entire negotiating committee, I want to say it has been our honor to serve as their representatives."
The agreement was hammered out over a five-day period with assistance from federal mediators and participation at the bargaining table by IAM International President Tom Buffenbarger and IAM General Vice President Rich Michalski. Additional resources and technical support was provided by various departments at IAM headquarters.
Job security and the use of vendors were key issues in the strike that began on Sept. 6, 2008. Among the other issues resolved in the latest round of bargaining were wage rates, health care benefits for current and future employees, pension improvements and work rule changes designed to improve productivity.
Full details of the 4-year accord will be withheld until they can be compiled and distributed to IAM members in all Boeing locations.
The tentative agreement has the unanimous endorsement of the IAM negotiating committee and will be presented to members for a ratification vote, which will take place in 3-5 days. A simple majority is required to ratify the tentative agreement.
"After 52 days of striking, we have gained important and substantial improvements over the Company's last, best and final offer that was rejected on September 3rd. Your solidarity brought Boeing back to the table and made this Company address your issues," stated District 751 President Tom Wroblewski. "Each of you stood up and did your part to win this battle, which was a fight against more than just Boeing, but against corporate America. Boeing is profitable because of our members' hard work and by standing together our members ensured they receive a bigger share of those profits."
"This tentative agreement is the result of hard work and great sacrifice by many people," said IAM Aerospace Coordinator Mark Blondin. "But no one deserves more credit than the workers at Boeing, who conducted themselves with dignity and determination throughout this ordeal. On behalf of the entire negotiating committee, I want to say it has been our honor to serve as their representatives."
Townsville re-fueller suggested it was a resounding NO.
Do you think V OZ head honcho's will learn from this?...................No I don't think so either!
Feed them cake.
Do you think V OZ head honcho's will learn from this?...................No I don't think so either!
Feed them cake.
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Now the Boeing strike is over, VAus plans to take delivery of the 1st A/C mid-late Dec.
Thats was the word recently from people involved with organising the delivery flights, but who knows.
Thats was the word recently from people involved with organising the delivery flights, but who knows.
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With a bit of luck this whole whore-house called V for VD Aus and all the whores who went to work in it will never get off the ground.
attitude to have.Show some more respect for your fellow aviators.
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Show some more respect for your fellow aviators.
Is that the same respect shown to fellow aviators by accepting such c%^p conditions and setting a new bench mark for his fellow aviators, oh thats right it's his choice and therefore Hoofhearted has his choice too, it's a shame that most pilots do not have much respect for this new operation, I can't wait for you all to see the wood from the tree's, by then it's too late, enjoy your meal at the LAX Holiday Inn and paxing in row 67C. Have you asked flight ops whether they will pax you in business class? This is going to be fun to watch!
By the way, I have a new name for your Union, the Flight Attendant and Pilots Association, FAPA!
Is that the same respect shown to fellow aviators by accepting such c%^p conditions and setting a new bench mark for his fellow aviators, oh thats right it's his choice and therefore Hoofhearted has his choice too, it's a shame that most pilots do not have much respect for this new operation, I can't wait for you all to see the wood from the tree's, by then it's too late, enjoy your meal at the LAX Holiday Inn and paxing in row 67C. Have you asked flight ops whether they will pax you in business class? This is going to be fun to watch!
By the way, I have a new name for your Union, the Flight Attendant and Pilots Association, FAPA!
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I've posted it before and I'll post it again........
For ANY of you posting negative and nasty comments here about VAus drivers selling out, lowering the bar, etc AND fly for DJ or JQ then you are NOTHING BUT A HYPOCRIT!
The DJ drivers were the first to pay for their endorsement & training.... then came JQ to lower it further, then JQ International with the CRFO role offering "that" salary for the A330. What an uproar at the time, yet so many of you ran in like hogs at the trough in order to fly a jet.
Some of you need a good look in the mirror and get off that self righteous high horse. Personally I do not agree with so much at VAus, but I can't tolerate the pathetic hypocritical comments made by (potentially) some of the founders of the lowering of Oz aviation's T's & C's.
For the record, I do not have any affinity with VAus in case that bird tries to fly with some.
For ANY of you posting negative and nasty comments here about VAus drivers selling out, lowering the bar, etc AND fly for DJ or JQ then you are NOTHING BUT A HYPOCRIT!
The DJ drivers were the first to pay for their endorsement & training.... then came JQ to lower it further, then JQ International with the CRFO role offering "that" salary for the A330. What an uproar at the time, yet so many of you ran in like hogs at the trough in order to fly a jet.
Some of you need a good look in the mirror and get off that self righteous high horse. Personally I do not agree with so much at VAus, but I can't tolerate the pathetic hypocritical comments made by (potentially) some of the founders of the lowering of Oz aviation's T's & C's.
For the record, I do not have any affinity with VAus in case that bird tries to fly with some.
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Show some more respect for your fellow aviators.
So V turned you down for a job - move on mate!
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TopTup..good call, well put. You have to question the motives of anyone getting on this forum trolling for gossip and bad mouthing any operation. Perhaps the reason why they do so rests with their inability to cope with their own incapabilities?
Like you, I have nothing to do with V Aus, I did however look at and got ALL the facts and made my own mind up electing to stay put.
I have said this before also..there are some good people that have gone to V Aus, I know some of them well. They have returned to Australia for good reason. It would be fair to say allot of the so called "well informed" and opinionated here wouldn't know what it's like to be an expat as they have never left the comfort of the Sydney basin.
I hope for the guys that have gone to V Aus that in a few years time it turns out to be a good operation, it has the potential.
Like you, I have nothing to do with V Aus, I did however look at and got ALL the facts and made my own mind up electing to stay put.
I have said this before also..there are some good people that have gone to V Aus, I know some of them well. They have returned to Australia for good reason. It would be fair to say allot of the so called "well informed" and opinionated here wouldn't know what it's like to be an expat as they have never left the comfort of the Sydney basin.
I hope for the guys that have gone to V Aus that in a few years time it turns out to be a good operation, it has the potential.
Sorry Sand Dune, cant let that go. For years anyone who stayed in Oz has had to put up with the drivel from all the expats, telling us how wonderful it was OS, how you got looked after and paid an enormous salary. And the lifestyle....well what more could you ask for.
Now theres a wide body startup in Oz and look, its being crewed by cheap foreign and expat labour who either just want to come home or escape their own country's disasters. If it was a case of experience required to set it up, I can live with that, but VB has more ex widebody and specifically 777 skippers than you can poke a stick at. Its not about that, its about reduction in wages and working conditions, and I say again all the expats coming to VA, regardless of their reasons are sh!tting well and truely in the nest, for all of us.
incoming...............
Now theres a wide body startup in Oz and look, its being crewed by cheap foreign and expat labour who either just want to come home or escape their own country's disasters. If it was a case of experience required to set it up, I can live with that, but VB has more ex widebody and specifically 777 skippers than you can poke a stick at. Its not about that, its about reduction in wages and working conditions, and I say again all the expats coming to VA, regardless of their reasons are sh!tting well and truely in the nest, for all of us.
incoming...............
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No Idea..Point taken and you raise a number of good points. I wasnt one of those that made a fuss of going O/S, I simply did what I had to do and got on with it.
Point I was trying to make is bitching and carrying on on pprune does nothing and just proves to management we are nothing but our own worst enemies.
I say it again, let the guys that are there do their job and lets hope in a few years time they build VA into an operation that befits it's potential.
Point I was trying to make is bitching and carrying on on pprune does nothing and just proves to management we are nothing but our own worst enemies.
I say it again, let the guys that are there do their job and lets hope in a few years time they build VA into an operation that befits it's potential.
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I saw in Fridays Australian news paper that V are looking for a Manager of Flight Operations and another Flight Operations roll (Training Manager I believe?). Correct me if I am wrong, I thought V already had a Manager of Flight Operations?
Is the writing on the wall hear guy's, have the start up boy's already left?
Is the writing on the wall hear guy's, have the start up boy's already left?
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You guys (but not all on this thread) have really lost the plot. The title suggested to me something that had little to do with industrial relations. Cheers, rtp
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rtp I agree!
Quite a few blissfull comments on this thread.
After all, ignorance is bliss isn't it?
All the best to those involved with Vaustralia, I hope that it will be a great airline.
Cheers webby.
After all, ignorance is bliss isn't it?
All the best to those involved with Vaustralia, I hope that it will be a great airline.
Cheers webby.
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