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Old 10th Sep 2008, 12:53
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XR also looked at the ATR42/72 family. these are gaining popularity in the region with ****** getting a second example and toll operating two as well as several pacific operators. ATR now have a rep in Australia to increase sales so could be a possible F50 replacement.
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Will the pax keep coming back if they have to pay extra to check in bags, pay extra for a meal, no lounge and no frequent flyer points?

QF are bringing in 737s. Is this for the extra capacity? If so, does the Embraer have the capacity?

Interesting times ahead.
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Most of these fly in fly out don't have much in the way of luggage and for the average Joe 23kg is more than enough. You can bring your own food if you want and I would imagine on the return to PER there wont be much to buy anyway. The Lounge is coming to PER. 190's carry 104 adults.
Lastly Velocity(FF) has been around for a couple of years.

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you'd be suprised how much luggage FIFO workers carry, especially if they need their own tools etc.

Isnt DJ going into the old AN lounge where Alliance are at the moment????? Thought Alliance had full control over it?

QF are bringing in 727's because they need capacity, interesting times when DJ are bringing only a 70 seat EMB-170, not a EMB-190
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All hail the resurrection of the 727. Horniest looking aeroplane made!
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my mistake, the 2 is next to the 3, the 3 is next to the 2..........

I miss those 727's, what a great aeroplane they continue to be!
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 00:42
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It must be starting to worry the powers that be,as I hear QF having been basing engineers in Karratha over the past few days.

Maybe QF are worried that if VB do this right they will lose a large sum of the WA profit.
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I was under the assumption the E90 were being positioned in PER? E70 are needed on the east coast regional services.
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Press release stated EMB-170's
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I don't think so Skystar, pretty sure it's E190's coming to Perth. 3 initially, and that's not 2 because it's next to the 3 but actually three E190's to Perth.
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ahhh yes you are right, sorry about that - my mistake!
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The E190 will be restricted come summer unless DJ uprate the engines. As they are currently de-rated CF34's. NJS did the comparison a few years ago. The E170 payload vs range and baggage was crap, and to operate in and out of the mine strips you would have to reduce the px in the tyres which then make the aircraft carry less in weight. So not a good aircraft for W.A. in the summer. The F100 does ok, but the real aircraft that does well is the 146-100/300 the 200 is very poor.
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Meanwhile, QF Link is putting pictures of their "babes" on their 717s to match Branson's flying babes:



The skies over WA will be a colourful place in a few months!

Those bent wings on the XF70/100s are a bit sus. If anybody sees a wing like that, I'd suggest you run, because it's about to let go with a bang.
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The 717 is off to Hawaiian Airlines to spend the rest of it's flying days doing 20 min sectors between the islands.
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Old 12th Sep 2008, 22:52
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Speaking of 717s, apart from an increased fuel burn, it looks to me like the 717 is on a par or exceeds the capabilities/features of the E195, and it's quite a few million cheaper. Bring 'em on!
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So where's the data comparing the e-jets to modern regional jets such as the CRJ and turboprops (old or new)?
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As I posted earlier,

No CRJ or Turboprops, but have a look here, has a few planes to compare to

EMBRAER

hope that helps for now
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Having worked on the f100, the embraer, and the 2,3,4,7,800 series 737s, the embraer is much quicker to load and unload than any of them...

The F100 only has one entry/exit door, and also has 3 seats on one side which slows things down. The 737 variants have 3 seats each side, which slows things down a fair bit, but with 2 entry exit doors.

The embraer with 2 entry/exit doors and 2 seats aside make it very quick to unload, clean, and load. Provided theres no training happening up front, and you get some efficient ground and cabin crew, its possible to turn them around in 15mins without rushing. Once the doors are open, its about 1-2minutes on a full business flight.
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Old 15th Sep 2008, 12:03
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would be interesting to see if they will be painted as

VB

PB

or something else?

Anyone know for sure?



(if speculating please say so... )
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Red Jungle Jet 190 observed at Perth today. If it wasn't Route Proving, what was it doing?
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