Virgin launches to Newman and Karratha
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If it can't be flown with the E170/190 then the flight will normally be made with the 737. The probable reason for the E jet not doing the flight is crewing. Lack thereof.....
Does anyone who actually flies for VB know if and approx when they are going to open a permanent pilot base here in Perth??
A few facts would be greatly appreciated.
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Thanks very much.
A few facts would be greatly appreciated.
Please PM me if you do not wish to post here.
Thanks very much.
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A permanent E-jet pilot base is in the process of being set up. First group of internal FO’s upgrading to E-jet Captains for the Perth base are due to start training. External pilots who have recently been interviewed (and are currently on hold) have been offered a Perth base.
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So those of you who have never flown an F50 or stuck your head in one you should, just to see how far Fokker were ahead of the times
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Isnt DJ going into the old AN lounge where Alliance are at the moment????? Thought Alliance had full control over it?
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Van Go - The difference between the F50 and the DC3 is that the F50 is STILL state of the art whilst the DC3 is just a tad outdated. As I said, stick your head in and have a look.
On this subject, how are the loads going with VB to Newman and Karratha. I notice todays DJ1727 has been cancelled. Is that due tech problems or pax issues?
I must admit thoses EMB 190's look sexxy on approach in to Broome, #$%@@^#$&'s
On this subject, how are the loads going with VB to Newman and Karratha. I notice todays DJ1727 has been cancelled. Is that due tech problems or pax issues?
I must admit thoses EMB 190's look sexxy on approach in to Broome, #$%@@^#$&'s
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loads to KTA have been in the 40's mostly, a couple of flights around 60.
the problem with todays service is crew, they are having some issues till they open the PER base.
not sure about the F50 being state of the art...maybe in the '90's it was...
the problem with todays service is crew, they are having some issues till they open the PER base.
not sure about the F50 being state of the art...maybe in the '90's it was...
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The difference between the F50 and the DC3 is that the F50 is STILL state of the art
Yep. The state of the art powercart system that the XR F50s use instead of an APU is an amazing demonstration of engineering prowess
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There seams to be 2-3 E190's parked up at Perth at the moment. ZPJ hasn't left Perth for over a week, ZPE,A G have all had a extended rest. Great way to run a airline. Especially new aircraft. Just park them up.
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Skystar I do know that they overnight in Perth, but to have 2 E190's on the deck for the whole day, that seems a tad strange don't you think? esp ZPJ being parked somewhere around the airport for over a week now.
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Think about it...
Although ZPJ can be a spare, it does fly too. It is more cost effective for Virgin Blue to have an operational spare now in every major port (due to reducing capacity), then have over capacity in the short term, especially with some capacity going to international flying shortly. Aircraft sitting on the ground lose less money than aircraft flying making a loss. But these aircraft do get used from time to time, some much more than others.
Current E-Jet flying out of Perth daily:
2x Broome
2 / 3x Adelaide
1 / 2x Karratha
1x Newman
You do need 3 aircraft to do the job, and of course due to this schedule there will be a time for the aircraft to sit on the ground. Once Perth base is up and running by next year, I presume there will be more routes opened, hence more utilisation. They can't fly to too many places too quickly, as you will have a shortage of trained crew, especially without a base. So watch this space in 6 months onwards.
Current E-Jet flying out of Perth daily:
2x Broome
2 / 3x Adelaide
1 / 2x Karratha
1x Newman
You do need 3 aircraft to do the job, and of course due to this schedule there will be a time for the aircraft to sit on the ground. Once Perth base is up and running by next year, I presume there will be more routes opened, hence more utilisation. They can't fly to too many places too quickly, as you will have a shortage of trained crew, especially without a base. So watch this space in 6 months onwards.
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Regardless of where you are in the commercial flying industry (charter, Airwork or RPT), aeroplanes that dont fly cost their owners money and in particular leased airliners that are not continually flying (and I mean 8 to 10 hours each and every day) are a huge financial 'millstone' around an operators neck.
