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Whilst on talk about the media and their mistakes, this is from THE AGE this morning:
Now who the hell is this fella, heh?
The aircraft was greeted by Qantas chief executive general manager John Brought
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Search me. Thought it might be the spell checker's version of Borghetti, but mine suggests brochette, Bugatti, Birgitta or beget. So maybe it's just the Sunday sub-editor's personal spelling preference.
Who was the tech crew for Sydney arrival?
Who was the tech crew for Sydney arrival?
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Qantas&squo;s first A380 has a happy landing | Herald Sun
According to this Herald-Sun article Capt was Probert, FO was Kramer.
According to this Herald-Sun article Capt was Probert, FO was Kramer.
And today's paper is still referring to Nancy-Bird Walton
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I will put my hand up now - I was wrong.
After speaking to some of the A380 people at the ceremony, it appears they have the name right. Apparently Nancy changed her name abotu 12 months ago and moved the hypthen. Shame the media were not informed of it. So it appears the name is correct, as per her own wishes.
After speaking to some of the A380 people at the ceremony, it appears they have the name right. Apparently Nancy changed her name abotu 12 months ago and moved the hypthen. Shame the media were not informed of it. So it appears the name is correct, as per her own wishes.
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Tinpis, at the moment there are a couple of senior line captains on the list (55 plus) but the aircraft is not super senior at the moment. There are captains with a seniority of around 450 in the pipeline.
Whether it becomes a senior fleet will depend on a few things, mainly the pay rate which was going to be the same as a 744 in EBA 8, (but that is on hold for now) in which case it won't be very senior very soon. Once some of the older -400's start to go, then guys will start to shift over.
Whether it becomes a senior fleet will depend on a few things, mainly the pay rate which was going to be the same as a 744 in EBA 8, (but that is on hold for now) in which case it won't be very senior very soon. Once some of the older -400's start to go, then guys will start to shift over.
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Nancy-Bird apparently OK
Re Qantas 787 post
I also will put my hand up, I found the story credible and passed it on.
Perhaps we are too readily believing our own propoganda.
Time for a reality check.
I also will put my hand up, I found the story credible and passed it on.
Perhaps we are too readily believing our own propoganda.
Time for a reality check.
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Nancy-Bird-Walton
Well I started this yesterday with the observation, but only went on record after Googling her as well as checking her name out with other media outlets, did go as far as possible.
Only as of today has the media put the hypen where it is on the a/c.
Can't find a news story re her changing her name, so I will not hold my hand up just yet.
Non mia culpa, but hoping to be shown otherwise.
Only as of today has the media put the hypen where it is on the a/c.
Can't find a news story re her changing her name, so I will not hold my hand up just yet.
Non mia culpa, but hoping to be shown otherwise.
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Autobrakes4,
not only a pay cut for existing CC but reduced minimum based turn around, higher hours AND no ability to bid for trips.
Many [most?] of the junior onboard managers who were "selected" to go across saw the fact that they were "hands off" onboard, as rather appealing
They are all except for maybe one or two, pathological "yes men"[ and women] who have ingratiated themselves with the management regime by working in the office.
I can confidently say that many will be useless to the point of being almost counterproductive in the operational environment as their personality types can't, but, foster disharmony. [The irony being lost on management of course that these sycophants wheedled themselves into the office for a reason.]
Picture the type who obsess about inconsequential details like the "correct" placement of name badges on uniforms, the size of earrings and pony tail length as if this nonsense has some bearing on customer satisfaction.
Don't get me wrong. We ARE directed to obsess about meaningless detail as per our bi-monthly "ask Audry" publications. It's just that most of those "selected" lack the maturity, common sense and good judgement to focus on meaningful, big picture stuff.
More puppets [muppets??] than leaders. In short, the type, who can't see the wood for the trees.
Those CC working on the A380 will have to have eyes in the back of their heads and wear a chain mail vest under their uniforms to survive.
not only a pay cut for existing CC but reduced minimum based turn around, higher hours AND no ability to bid for trips.
Many [most?] of the junior onboard managers who were "selected" to go across saw the fact that they were "hands off" onboard, as rather appealing
They are all except for maybe one or two, pathological "yes men"[ and women] who have ingratiated themselves with the management regime by working in the office.
I can confidently say that many will be useless to the point of being almost counterproductive in the operational environment as their personality types can't, but, foster disharmony. [The irony being lost on management of course that these sycophants wheedled themselves into the office for a reason.
]Picture the type who obsess about inconsequential details like the "correct" placement of name badges on uniforms, the size of earrings and pony tail length as if this nonsense has some bearing on customer satisfaction.
Don't get me wrong. We ARE directed to obsess about meaningless detail as per our bi-monthly "ask Audry" publications. It's just that most of those "selected" lack the maturity, common sense and good judgement to focus on meaningful, big picture stuff.
More puppets [muppets??] than leaders. In short, the type, who can't see the wood for the trees.
Those CC working on the A380 will have to have eyes in the back of their heads and wear a chain mail vest under their uniforms to survive.
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Her husband used to affectionally call her 'Nancy-Bird' so that is how it is written on the aircraft.....at Nancy's request!
The aircraft is nothing if not impressive....the internet is filling up with shots of it.
The aircraft is nothing if not impressive....the internet is filling up with shots of it.
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A380 Arrival Ceremony- On a lighter note....
All the staff that attended the ceremony had been given a raffle ticket for a chance at some prize (no one would say what it was when they handed them out).
Did anyone win the prize? And what was it?
AWBC
(still holding his ticket in the vain hope that he might of won something...)
Did anyone win the prize? And what was it?
AWBC
(still holding his ticket in the vain hope that he might of won something...)
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The current QF crew that have gone across to A380 haven't taken a pay cut at all. They are signed up for 2 years, with the right of return, and their wages are subsidised so they don't lose money. They are however subject to higher roster duty hours, but as we all know the frequency of scheduled trips will keep the hours down anyway.
Time will tell the management style on board, but the fact that the crew will work more regularly together will hopefully be a positive influence on the whole team.
Time will tell the management style on board, but the fact that the crew will work more regularly together will hopefully be a positive influence on the whole team.
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ABP,
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"but the fact that the crew will work more regularly together will hopefully be a positive influence on the whole team."
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Mmmm. I'm guessing you've never flown with "The Dysfunctionals" out of Melbourne
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Wasn't the "top up" pay calculated to compensate for the pay cut going across NOT the low pay experienced by those doing low hours during the initial start up phase??
Your argument sounds counter intuitive to me??
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"but the fact that the crew will work more regularly together will hopefully be a positive influence on the whole team."
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Mmmm. I'm guessing you've never flown with "The Dysfunctionals" out of Melbourne
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Wasn't the "top up" pay calculated to compensate for the pay cut going across NOT the low pay experienced by those doing low hours during the initial start up phase??
Your argument sounds counter intuitive to me??