Merged: QF to receive first A380 Sept 19

[Eastwest Loco]

I concur that the A380 is the 21st Century BUFF on the ground, but after following the maiden flight on the Web filmed from a chase aeroplane, I changed my mind.

The girl looks brilliant cleaned up and motoring along.

It scares me a little as it is so large.

Chuck Yeager once said "Never fly the A model of anything."

One should give his words credence to a degree I suppose.

Best all

EWL

[StallBoy]

TIMMEEEE wrote,

Its engines aren't innovative (compared with the 787 with bleedless engines), its structure isnt exactly innovative compared with other alloy airframes (compared to the composite frame of the B787) and the much criticised production line is hardly innovative either (compared to the B787 which has a radically new assembly procedure).

About the only thing it has in common with the B787 is its late delivery

AND THE 787 HASN'T FLOWN YET OR IS IN AIRLINE SERVICE YET

WILL THE 787 BE CALLED THE 787 Spruce Goose??????

[Mr.Buzzy]

Fuel tanks are too big.......

A long time to be listening to "his excellency's" opinions on stocks, the little Irishman's next move, bluddy Rudd, Costello's comeback, the new X5 and how he can't wait to go spill beer in Dicko's pub.

Yaaaaaawn... tell me more captain 5 bars.

Anyhoo skip..... I'm off to check the door locks in the crew rest....

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[Selfloading]

Hilarious, all these people trying to start a nickname for the A380

[Keg]

Yes, the Dugong only has one real nickname!

[B772]

Now that EK have been advised their second A380 will be delayed there are rumblings that the early aircraft are 5 tonnes heavier than contracted for. Also reports of the endurance being just over 13 hours. Just as well EK do not plan to ops trans pacific with their A380.

[woftam]

EK's one and only A380 is U/S in DBX as we speak I believe!

[Taildragger67]

Just as long as they have one ready for me at DXB on 27 Feb 09 (touch wood... ) they can be as late as they want!

[B772]

A380-800 Driver

I have found some info on the B747-8I from Boeing that will be of interest to you.

The MZFW is planned to be 288 tonnes

The EOW is estimated to be 212 tonnes

DOW will vary by operator

Your A380 payload of 66 tonnes looks a bit "sick"
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The 747-8F numbers are as follows.

MZFW 321.6 tonnes

EOW 187.6 tonnes
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Ps. I have access to a Boeing document that makes some comparisons between the A380 and the B747-8I. I could post it if it was of interst to you.

[Jabawocky]

And so far only Lufthansa have ordered the Intercontinental, unless anyone has ordered one lately.

You would think QF would be smart to sell off some of their later A380 slots and go the 747-8.

If the 777 to 747-8 is a simple transition as promoted it would make some sense.

Maybe thats the plan and it will make some $$$ for QF down the track with more efficient newer Boeings and the rest are heavily tied to the A380 fleet.

J

[Bolty McBolt]

Now that EK have been advised their second A380 will be delayed there are rumblings that the early aircraft are 5 tonnes heavier than contracted for. Also reports of the endurance being just over 13 hours. Just as well EK do not plan to ops trans pacific with their A380.

EK have a diff engine option to SQ and QF. I have heard a rumour that the EK engine variant has a HOT and HIGH thrust penalty that reduces T.O. weight up to 15 tonne... The rumour also has it that the short fall was not discovered until on wing test.

Anybody heard same or can confirm? or see the irony?

[Taildragger67]

Right...

Now that the 747-8 has been mentioned, I toss this grenade in for the delectation and consideration of PPRuNers:

QF to be offered some of those puppies as part of the 787 delay compensation package?

This is just a thought, not based on any inside info, just like a 'Discuss' essay question.

Good-o, I'll just unfold my deck-chair and crack open a VB...

[aiming point]

Wonder if the QF380 delivery will be delayed now whilst waiting for the findings from the recent EK380 "incident" .

Bet management are waiting with bated breath.

[blow.n.gasket]

Heard a good one the other day.
Instead of the Dugong a few of the lads have taken to calling it
"The A-3 Latey"

[Alex 009]

And so far only Lufthansa have ordered the Intercontinental, unless anyone has ordered one lately.

You would think QF would be smart to sell off some of their later A380 slots and go the 747-8.

As massive blow to Boeing was BA not ordering the 747-8 (I think I remember at the time BA said that no Roller engine options had something to do for it. I know a few people who are still suspicious about flying on the A380, especially with the 747 being such a proven product (9th Feb 1967 I think???).

[Pedota]

Does anyone know if the A380 is still due tomorrow – and if so, what time?

[Taildragger67]

Pedota,

SMH reports the A3Latey will be delivered in Toulouse on 19 Sep and reach YSSY at approx 0900 AEDT 21 Sep.

It's good that it's fun to fly (so I'm told), it doesn't get any better looking no matter how many times I look at it...

[Keg]

Instead of the Dugong a few of the lads have taken to calling it
"The A-3 Latey"

The Airbus blokes I've spoken to recently have taken to referring to the two Airbus types in mainline as 'the 30' and 'the 80'. They don't look real thrilled when you say something like 'The 80? Oh, you mean the dugong!'

[Tankengine]

And it seems the 330 may be the "minibus!"

[what about 320?]

[Selfloading]

If the A380 is the Dugong the 747 must be the Humpback I suppose.