Merged: QF/JQ reduce capacity
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Reducing Capacity???
Hasn't Qantas got total aircraft orders close to $35 billion?
The figures provided earlier this year were:
20 * A380's & purchase rights for another 12
5 * A330-200's
5 * B737-800's
3 * A321's (less one)
4 * A320-200's (less one)
5 * Q400's
115 * B787 of which 65 are firm orders & purchase rights on another 50
Hasn't Qantas got total aircraft orders close to $35 billion?
The figures provided earlier this year were:
20 * A380's & purchase rights for another 12
5 * A330-200's
5 * B737-800's
3 * A321's (less one)
4 * A320-200's (less one)
5 * Q400's
115 * B787 of which 65 are firm orders & purchase rights on another 50
Nunc est bibendum
It's interesting when you read this news of reduced capacity and feed it into the forward delivery schedules and other information.
So we've retired a 734. The delivery schedules show a 737 arriving yesterday with two more to arrive before the beginning of July. There are six tentative deliveries scheduled for 2009 and ten tentative slots for 2010. This is consistent with reports that I've heard of a net increase in fleet size of 15 airframes and the retirement of 734s by the end of 2010.
So we're retiring four 747 Classics and 'grounding' two 767s. We have three A330s scheduled to arrive before the end of this year as well as three A380s. Reports from our 767 drivers indicate that two 767s are permanently grounded at any one time due to lack of spares or general serviceability issues.
Either way, the capacity doesn't seem to have been cut that much in the short term and still looks good for the longer term. The QF CP indicated in his recent burst- published after the announcement of the capacity cut- that the next training year should be just as big as this one.
Finally, there is the report in today's Australian about 'not all turbulence for Qantas'. As others have said, no profit downgrade either.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...rom=public_rss
I'm no expert but I don't see the need for the panic button just yet.
So we've retired a 734. The delivery schedules show a 737 arriving yesterday with two more to arrive before the beginning of July. There are six tentative deliveries scheduled for 2009 and ten tentative slots for 2010. This is consistent with reports that I've heard of a net increase in fleet size of 15 airframes and the retirement of 734s by the end of 2010.
So we're retiring four 747 Classics and 'grounding' two 767s. We have three A330s scheduled to arrive before the end of this year as well as three A380s. Reports from our 767 drivers indicate that two 767s are permanently grounded at any one time due to lack of spares or general serviceability issues.
Either way, the capacity doesn't seem to have been cut that much in the short term and still looks good for the longer term. The QF CP indicated in his recent burst- published after the announcement of the capacity cut- that the next training year should be just as big as this one.
Finally, there is the report in today's Australian about 'not all turbulence for Qantas'. As others have said, no profit downgrade either.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...rom=public_rss
I'm no expert but I don't see the need for the panic button just yet.
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You're right Keg. No need for the panic button. No profit downgrade, and the figures as descibed by yourself for the a/c coming and going don't add up tho, do they. Like some others have mentioned, I smell spin and a fishing expedition for public sympathy. The reason? How many EBA's are due now/soon? Nothing like increasing the pressure not to give long overdue payrises to the people who make the company what it is. Especially since they're pretty good at lining their own pockets huh?
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Keg and PM,
I agree - when you sit down and look carefully at the so called "grounding" of aircraft, it's all spin by Master Dixon, with most of these as planned retirements in any case. Nice work Geoff.
Sounds more like industrial positioning rather than anything else.
Re the AYE cancellations, I wouldn't mind betting the service will move over to JQ, so the QF group still has a presence there.
I agree - when you sit down and look carefully at the so called "grounding" of aircraft, it's all spin by Master Dixon, with most of these as planned retirements in any case. Nice work Geoff.
Sounds more like industrial positioning rather than anything else.
Re the AYE cancellations, I wouldn't mind betting the service will move over to JQ, so the QF group still has a presence there.
