Merged: Chaos at Perth Airport - All flights Grounded
I was watching the baggage trolley go past today and I think I saw one of those suspicious packages. 
I was seriously considering calling security and asking them to chack it out, BUT the forecaste for Cairns was for a nice day and I have 36 hrs off,
so I reconsidered, any way I digress.
The suspicious bag was a black case,
slightly larger than a brief case with a false handle, made out of imported (foreign) leather. 
It was sitting at the rear of the trolley all by itself? The false handle looked like it was made of an old tea towell or the like. 
Although it had a dodgy handle, it did have a business class tag on it ?
I checked the trolley and couldn't see any other bags that looked to be accompanying this case so I was happy by itself it wouldn't cause too many problems.
I was seriously considering calling security and asking them to chack it out, BUT the forecaste for Cairns was for a nice day and I have 36 hrs off,
so I reconsidered, any way I digress. The suspicious bag was a black case,
slightly larger than a brief case with a false handle, made out of imported (foreign) leather. It was sitting at the rear of the trolley all by itself? The false handle looked like it was made of an old tea towell or the like. Although it had a dodgy handle, it did have a business class tag on it ?
I checked the trolley and couldn't see any other bags that looked to be accompanying this case so I was happy by itself it wouldn't cause too many problems.
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Maybe there's some kind of inter-airport security competition going on? 
- SACL posted last Friday a 'Security Awareness' newsletter to all who hold a SACL security/access card - rather a strange 4 pages stating the absolute obvious - all individually addressed and even with a first name salutation.
The reported 12 hours to resolve the issue in PER is a little over the top - I was in Singapore a week ago and one of the shopping centres had a similar incident - centre cleared, package & bag x-rayed and removed and centre re-opened - time taken = 35 minutes.
I'm all for keeping it safe and secure, but I can't help thinking that the paranoid meter at a few Australian airports is running a little into the red zone.
- SACL posted last Friday a 'Security Awareness' newsletter to all who hold a SACL security/access card - rather a strange 4 pages stating the absolute obvious - all individually addressed and even with a first name salutation.
The reported 12 hours to resolve the issue in PER is a little over the top - I was in Singapore a week ago and one of the shopping centres had a similar incident - centre cleared, package & bag x-rayed and removed and centre re-opened - time taken = 35 minutes.
I'm all for keeping it safe and secure, but I can't help thinking that the paranoid meter at a few Australian airports is running a little into the red zone.
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Who was responsible?
Surely when an airline accepts your baggage they are responsible for it, and should keep it under their control and not let it become "suspicious" abandoned baggage. Did they just dump it and neglect it so no-one knew where it came from?
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There's a good chance it was just left there on the ground for whatever reason & the trolley guy simply drove off & never saw it again! Happens ALL the time at any airport, just this time someone hit the panick button & the rest is typical hysteria!
I used to work at Tulla (in the oil industry) years ago now & saw so many 'sus' packages on the ground & around an A/C left unattended that almost nobody bothered about then 'till someone all but ran over them, that was 'till 9/11, after that even an M/T cigarette packet was 'sus' !
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I used to work at Tulla (in the oil industry) years ago now & saw so many 'sus' packages on the ground & around an A/C left unattended that almost nobody bothered about then 'till someone all but ran over them, that was 'till 9/11, after that even an M/T cigarette packet was 'sus' !
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Spent a bit of time around the world just recently, it gets worse, especially the US, where they stop just short of a colonoscopy before you are allowed near the gate.
Fair enough, but get this, when you get on the bird and having your first champagne for the flight you're sitting on top of as many cargo igloos as they can get on board. Are they checked with the same rigour? I dont think so, in fact before I left last time they were talking about legislation to require the same level of scrutiny of the freight as is required of the pax.
It seems that the whole thing stops at the signature on the parcel are there any dangerous goods in this parcel. Hello??
Fair enough, but get this, when you get on the bird and having your first champagne for the flight you're sitting on top of as many cargo igloos as they can get on board. Are they checked with the same rigour? I dont think so, in fact before I left last time they were talking about legislation to require the same level of scrutiny of the freight as is required of the pax.
It seems that the whole thing stops at the signature on the parcel are there any dangerous goods in this parcel. Hello??
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'guanty' am not surprised at all with what you say.
This lunicy will never stop 'till the terrorists come out & shack the hand of the Presedent of the USA, & even then the world will never again sleep peacefully as long as long as the 'thought' of an attack still exists.
As awful as it sounds they (the terrorists) have won (this round) to some degree. All we can do now is make it damn hard for them to 'play another game' with our minds!
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This lunicy will never stop 'till the terrorists come out & shack the hand of the Presedent of the USA, & even then the world will never again sleep peacefully as long as long as the 'thought' of an attack still exists.
As awful as it sounds they (the terrorists) have won (this round) to some degree. All we can do now is make it damn hard for them to 'play another game' with our minds!
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bin Laden is an economist. He has been successful beyond his dreams in costing the Western world untold billions of dollars in pointless security.
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happy days,
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Just a quick question from the horde of experts on the topic. How many of you have actually had dangerous goods (tranport and loading, not just carriage) courses and how many of you have actually had bomb threat and search training?
The only thing of concern for this is the time period taken at the airport to get the suspect package dealt with. The comments about the package itself realistically are uneducated. Without being the person who found the package how can you actually know what the deal was with it or why it was considered suspect.
If any of you have read the news about the bombing of the office in Adelaide (around 10yrs ago or so) you may have found out that the package was the size of a video tape.
Unfortunately the threat of improvised devices is actually real and usually not from sources such as Bin Laden. It could easily have been some disgruntled employee that placed it there, because they are pissed off at having to pay a bond on their aircraft for their new job *tongue is cheek comment btw*
It's hard to accept that we who work in an industry that accepts basically a zero tolerance on accidents then gob off about such things as suspect packages.
The only thing of concern for this is the time period taken at the airport to get the suspect package dealt with. The comments about the package itself realistically are uneducated. Without being the person who found the package how can you actually know what the deal was with it or why it was considered suspect.
If any of you have read the news about the bombing of the office in Adelaide (around 10yrs ago or so) you may have found out that the package was the size of a video tape.
Unfortunately the threat of improvised devices is actually real and usually not from sources such as Bin Laden. It could easily have been some disgruntled employee that placed it there, because they are pissed off at having to pay a bond on their aircraft for their new job *tongue is cheek comment btw*
It's hard to accept that we who work in an industry that accepts basically a zero tolerance on accidents then gob off about such things as suspect packages.
