L@ser 'cluster' attack on Sydney planes
As I understand it, RWY 07 was in use for arrivals.
With respect to lasers being pointed at medical helicopters, it is either part of an increasing trend or a direct result of the very noisy Bankstown based medical helicopters operating to the various hospitals in the Sydney basin. Rescue (callsign) helicopters are much noisier than the Lifesaver helicopters that they replaced.
Pity environmental considerations didn't feature more heavily in the deliberations when the NSW Government awarded the contract.
With respect to lasers being pointed at medical helicopters, it is either part of an increasing trend or a direct result of the very noisy Bankstown based medical helicopters operating to the various hospitals in the Sydney basin. Rescue (callsign) helicopters are much noisier than the Lifesaver helicopters that they replaced.
Pity environmental considerations didn't feature more heavily in the deliberations when the NSW Government awarded the contract.
Nope. I don't buy that Missy. "Oh that helicopter rushing a critically injured patient to hospital is interfering with me hearing the script of Neighbours! Lets cause another accident!!!"
What's really a pity is that people can't simply deal with the fact that it's noisy in the city, especially so near airports, hospitals/fire stations/police stations, schools and any number of other venues.
The mere fact that you don't like the noise an aircraft generates does not entitle you to point a laser at it, or to do much at all about it. You want to live near an area with high air traffic, then deal with it. Put up with the noise, or move on out. "But we were here first!" BS.
I understand that you're trying to come up with reasons for it missy, and my annoyance (for lack of a better word, suggestions anyone?) is in no way directed at you, but theres even less excuse for endangering the safe operation of a MEDICAL TRANSPORT HELICOPTER than for a police chopper or a lightie, and theres less than no excuse to do either of those.
What's really a pity is that people can't simply deal with the fact that it's noisy in the city, especially so near airports, hospitals/fire stations/police stations, schools and any number of other venues.
The mere fact that you don't like the noise an aircraft generates does not entitle you to point a laser at it, or to do much at all about it. You want to live near an area with high air traffic, then deal with it. Put up with the noise, or move on out. "But we were here first!" BS.
I understand that you're trying to come up with reasons for it missy, and my annoyance (for lack of a better word, suggestions anyone?) is in no way directed at you, but theres even less excuse for endangering the safe operation of a MEDICAL TRANSPORT HELICOPTER than for a police chopper or a lightie, and theres less than no excuse to do either of those.
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L@zers in Melb too
I was momentarily blinded by a green l@zer while tracking E of EN yesterday evening about 2000 LMT. Not sure of the exact location but in the area just due S of PLE. I immediately informed ML DEPs. If only I had time to circle over the site until the police arrived ...
Personally I think malicious interference with aircraft safety should be classified as terrorism and not just a crime.
Personally I think malicious interference with aircraft safety should be classified as terrorism and not just a crime.
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l@zer attack in Melbourne
Hi all,
I got l@zered tonight flying to Essendon from the south at about 9pm in a Chieftain. It came from somewhere south of cheltenham... CNR of Bluff RD and Eliza St I think (+/- 500m). I got a good look at them, reported it immediately to ML DEP and they scrambled the POLAIR chopper immediately....
The
'ers also l@zered a REX Saab 340
I've got a headache and an eye cramp
why, oh why can't we do the freight run in a Tiger helicopter???
I got l@zered tonight flying to Essendon from the south at about 9pm in a Chieftain. It came from somewhere south of cheltenham... CNR of Bluff RD and Eliza St I think (+/- 500m). I got a good look at them, reported it immediately to ML DEP and they scrambled the POLAIR chopper immediately....
The
'ers also l@zered a REX Saab 340I've got a headache and an eye cramp
why, oh why can't we do the freight run in a Tiger helicopter???
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It wasn't that long ago that some ratbag was using a 303 around Medowie near NTL as the aircraft flying overhead were upsetting his TV reception. A little visit from RAAF police along with state police ruined his night, and if fact he spent some time as Her Majesties guest. I put these maniacs in the same boat, but unfortunately not as easy to catch, as someone blasting away with a rifle. Perhaps some sort of a reflector that is attached to the A/C returns the beam to the source could be answer. If you could work out how to do that you would make a motza.
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The only actual hit ever suffered by a RAAF Hercules from ground fire (at least in my day) was a .303 hole in the elevator of an A (or was it an E?) model doing circuits at Laverton.
The (today he'd be called a) 'terrorist' was a RAAF sergeant bluntie who objected to the noise interferring with his watching of the early 70's equivalent of 'Days of our Drearies', whatever that was.
Quite rightly he suffered the full force of the law, but you had to give him some credit for getting his lead angle almost right - a number of other people a rather long way north of Laverton and armed with weapons a bit more modern than the three-oh had the odd go at the Hercs over the years and never once scored a hit.
The (today he'd be called a) 'terrorist' was a RAAF sergeant bluntie who objected to the noise interferring with his watching of the early 70's equivalent of 'Days of our Drearies', whatever that was.
Quite rightly he suffered the full force of the law, but you had to give him some credit for getting his lead angle almost right - a number of other people a rather long way north of Laverton and armed with weapons a bit more modern than the three-oh had the odd go at the Hercs over the years and never once scored a hit.
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I can't help but wonder, if pilots were to arm themselves with these lasers and randomly zapped the suburbs from the cockpit on finals
. ......These things would be banned within a month.
As these lasers aren't sharp you'd have no trouble getting them through security.
. ......These things would be banned within a month.As these lasers aren't sharp you'd have no trouble getting them through security.
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As these lasers aren't sharp you'd have no trouble getting them through security.
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Perhaps some sort of a reflector that is attached to the A/C returns the beam to the source could be answer. If you could work out how to do that you would make a motza.
Anyone know how wide the beam is, typically, when pointed at an aircraft? Does it appear as a small dot, or more of a wash of light?
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Just heard about 6.30 QF540 was Lasered by a green laser about 20 miles out at 6000'.
Not sure exactly but I think on the 150 radial....
When will the feckwits give it up!
When they catch them they should be publically stoned or something more suitable.
This was no accident when the a/c was that far out and at 6000'.
J
Not sure exactly but I think on the 150 radial....
When will the feckwits give it up!
When they catch them they should be publically stoned or something more suitable.
This was no accident when the a/c was that far out and at 6000'.
J
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Thats where I got lasered on Friday night.... I bet its one of those "close essendon airport" protesters....
For info: when you get 'hit' with a laser it tends to show up as flashes of light scattering around and off aircraft parts. I noticed it reflecting off an engine cowl at 5000ft 16.5 DME ML on the 160 Radial. If you look at it you can trace the beam to origin.
For info: when you get 'hit' with a laser it tends to show up as flashes of light scattering around and off aircraft parts. I noticed it reflecting off an engine cowl at 5000ft 16.5 DME ML on the 160 Radial. If you look at it you can trace the beam to origin.
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They cannot zap you if they cannot see you. All external lights off, cabin dim. Silly game for silly little boys now over. A Melways reference is more useful to the police than radial/DME. I wonder how many little boys, especially those responsible for coordinated attacks, are from a common faith? Have names of of little boys caught, if any caught, been suppressed?
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Here's an expensive thought: (pleae note my tongue firmly in my cheek). Equip all aircraft with laser-guided missiles, activated by and following the incoming laser attack from these little pri
cks. A guy can dream can't he?
cks. A guy can dream can't he?
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Seems like the wankers are at it again:
ATIS YBBN V 140928
APCH: EXP INSTRUMENT APCH
RWY: 01
SFC COND: WET
OPR INFO: UNAUTHORISED LASER ILLUMINATION EVENT
HAS BEEN REPORTED AT DECEPTION BAY BEARING 320
DEGREES BRISBANE AT 12 MILES
WND: 340/12
VIS: GT 10 KM
WX: SH IN AREA
CLD: FEW035
TMP: 19
+ QNH: 1019
APCH: EXP INSTRUMENT APCH
RWY: 01
SFC COND: WET
OPR INFO: UNAUTHORISED LASER ILLUMINATION EVENT
HAS BEEN REPORTED AT DECEPTION BAY BEARING 320
DEGREES BRISBANE AT 12 MILES
WND: 340/12
VIS: GT 10 KM
WX: SH IN AREA
CLD: FEW035
TMP: 19
+ QNH: 1019
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cleraly shining it at the cockpit affects the pilots field of vision and therefore the plane...but shining it at the fuselage or empennage...does that make a differnece or affect it at all?
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Moderator: I have to ask why you removed my post when the 17 year olds post above mine was not also removed?
he is basically asking if it's ok to shine a LASER at an Aircraft as long as you don't point it into the cockpit area and blind the crew? isn't that what he's getting at?
Obviously if you point it at the fuselage it will have no effect but are you aiming that well at a fast moving object? can you guarantee you wont blind the crew by mistake?
He must be kidding us?
I reply to him asking if he owns one and you pull MY REPLY?
holy smokes is this communist China we are in or a vendetta against me?
he is basically asking if it's ok to shine a LASER at an Aircraft as long as you don't point it into the cockpit area and blind the crew? isn't that what he's getting at?
Obviously if you point it at the fuselage it will have no effect but are you aiming that well at a fast moving object? can you guarantee you wont blind the crew by mistake?
He must be kidding us?
I reply to him asking if he owns one and you pull MY REPLY?
holy smokes is this communist China we are in or a vendetta against me?
