NAT JET 717 mishap
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Originally Posted by squid
Saw it today being pushed backwards along echo across to the RAAF side of the airfield......(?)
DIA says "NJS, move that 717." Choice: crowded Southern GA stand or near empty military hardstand.
Not particularly exciting, I'm afraid. No conspiracy. Sorry to spoil the fun.
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If I've been banned I've not been told about it.
If I remember correctly, the mods chopped the inflammatory and insensitive posts prior to mine, and told those posters to take a hint.
Seems we have some slow learners here.
If I remember correctly, the mods chopped the inflammatory and insensitive posts prior to mine, and told those posters to take a hint.
Seems we have some slow learners here.
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Thats probably where it will stay if its going to get fixed...and probably if it doesn't.
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717 Photos from DRW
The following photos and article were published in Crikey. I have no way of knowing if they are real, make up your own mind.
Qantas gives new meaning to "bracket creep"
Ben Sandilands writes:
After giving 84 passengers a new meaning to the term "bracket creep" in a hard landing at Darwin on 7 February, exclusive images of the damage to the Qantaslink Boeing 717 have fallen from a passing jet in front of Crikey Towers.
The jet suffered extensive wrinkling or creep in areas of the fuselage rear of the wing, as shown in these images. A set of tyres also display impact-induced cracking of considerable magnitude.
The jet was hidden from public view by Qantas for days in a Darwin hangar and kept out of the general media until Crikey broke the story on 11 February.
At that time it was a candidate for being the first hull loss of a Qantas jet, or any jet airliner, in Australia. (Qantas "retired" and sold a bent Boeing 707 involved in a steep dive and recovery while flying between Bangkok and Bahrain in 1969.)
This now wrinkled jet was flown for Qantaslink by National Jet, the South Australian contractor currently having its pilot training and checking processes examined as part of an Australian Transport Safety Bureau investigation of the incident.
National Jet won the outsourced flight contract for its excellence and low bid and has been repeatedly endorsed by Qantas as meeting all of its safety and service standards.
The jet was supplied by Allco Leasing, an arm of the seriously compromised Allco Finance Group that was a party to the private equity bid so enthusiastically endorsed by Qantas before it went pear shaped last May, and once stood to participate in the proposed FleetCo spin off that was being pushed by the Airline Partners Australia consortium.
Qantas says the jet, worth about $35 million, will be repaired, rather than cashed out by insurance as a write-off. Industry sources say this might cost it more than $100 million, but pride in this case comes after a heavy fall, and the airline doesn’t want to score its first ever jet hull loss.
Those little wrinkles are going to require very costly cosmetic surgery to smooth out.
Qantas made a similar investment in rebuilding the Boeing 747-400 it punted into a golf course at the old Bangkok airport in 1999, which ripped off an engine, pushed the nose wheel up into a bulge that was punched into the middle of first class, and tore off the main gear.
The bill for those "repairs" is believed to have been well in excess of $100 million.
Ben Sandilands writes:
After giving 84 passengers a new meaning to the term "bracket creep" in a hard landing at Darwin on 7 February, exclusive images of the damage to the Qantaslink Boeing 717 have fallen from a passing jet in front of Crikey Towers.
The jet suffered extensive wrinkling or creep in areas of the fuselage rear of the wing, as shown in these images. A set of tyres also display impact-induced cracking of considerable magnitude.
The jet was hidden from public view by Qantas for days in a Darwin hangar and kept out of the general media until Crikey broke the story on 11 February.
At that time it was a candidate for being the first hull loss of a Qantas jet, or any jet airliner, in Australia. (Qantas "retired" and sold a bent Boeing 707 involved in a steep dive and recovery while flying between Bangkok and Bahrain in 1969.)
This now wrinkled jet was flown for Qantaslink by National Jet, the South Australian contractor currently having its pilot training and checking processes examined as part of an Australian Transport Safety Bureau investigation of the incident.
National Jet won the outsourced flight contract for its excellence and low bid and has been repeatedly endorsed by Qantas as meeting all of its safety and service standards.
The jet was supplied by Allco Leasing, an arm of the seriously compromised Allco Finance Group that was a party to the private equity bid so enthusiastically endorsed by Qantas before it went pear shaped last May, and once stood to participate in the proposed FleetCo spin off that was being pushed by the Airline Partners Australia consortium.
Qantas says the jet, worth about $35 million, will be repaired, rather than cashed out by insurance as a write-off. Industry sources say this might cost it more than $100 million, but pride in this case comes after a heavy fall, and the airline doesn’t want to score its first ever jet hull loss.
Those little wrinkles are going to require very costly cosmetic surgery to smooth out.
Qantas made a similar investment in rebuilding the Boeing 747-400 it punted into a golf course at the old Bangkok airport in 1999, which ripped off an engine, pushed the nose wheel up into a bulge that was punched into the middle of first class, and tore off the main gear.
The bill for those "repairs" is believed to have been well in excess of $100 million.
My guess is that a "truss" will be applied and the aircraft flown unpressurised to YMAV, where, in the fullness of time, it will be "decommissioned".
These are cheap aircraft. No one is going to bother fixing them.
Just an opinion.
These are cheap aircraft. No one is going to bother fixing them.
Just an opinion.
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"The jet was hidden from public view by Qantas for days in a Darwin hangar and kept out of the general media until Crikey broke the story on 11 February."
eerr, im pretty sure i remember putting past this every day on the apron in one of the far bays directly infront of public viewing if they wanted to see it...not a hangar within 300 odd metres.
great story guys, done well, i will be sure to look for it under new relases in the fiction section of my local bookstore.....
eerr, im pretty sure i remember putting past this every day on the apron in one of the far bays directly infront of public viewing if they wanted to see it...not a hangar within 300 odd metres.
great story guys, done well, i will be sure to look for it under new relases in the fiction section of my local bookstore.....
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Actually, Elvis and Harold Holt, have both surfaced from their Russian bunker underneath Ayers Rock. They have trained in aircraft repair and will soon be seen in Darwin, beavering about a 717, making it ready to fly again. 
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"Qantas made a similar investment in rebuilding the Boeing 747-400 it punted into a golf course at the old Bangkok airport in 1999, which ripped off an engine, pushed the nose wheel up into a bulge that was punched into the middle of first class, and tore off the main gear."
It seems that internet journalism is no better than the printed stuff when it comes to aviation. None of what was described as damage to the -400 is correct. A tip I was given in a previous job is that no journalist is your friend-no matter how "friendly" they may seem.
It seems that internet journalism is no better than the printed stuff when it comes to aviation. None of what was described as damage to the -400 is correct. A tip I was given in a previous job is that no journalist is your friend-no matter how "friendly" they may seem.
From mate at NJS said NXE due to fly later this week or next week to Adelaide. He said the McDonnell Douglas boys fixing the aircraft said that it is no way the worst they have fixed and with the solid airframe they have unlike current types it wont be a problem. It was mentioned that they spend more time running around fixing DC-10 freigthers then any other type.
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Qantas is the lessee of the aircraft - therefore its them who pays for maintenance. Its NJS who wet lease's them to Qantas i.e supply's pulots / FA
It's complicated
It's complicated
Hi All,NXE arrived in ADL last night,suggest that all who posted with rediculous comments like "trusses" need to get first hand info before posting.I had a good look at the aircraft after the landing and during repairs and it certainly wasn't at any stage unrepairable,the sad thing about this industry is the amount of experts in it .Regards,OZ