NAT JET 717 mishap
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To be fair guys, the weather around here for the last few days has been seriously monsoon cr@p and this incident is NOT the only heavy landing that has happened, just the most speccy.
Glad all walked away from it.
Lot of second hand cheap 717 spares may be on the market soon???
Glad all walked away from it.
Lot of second hand cheap 717 spares may be on the market soon???
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Cunning........they are far more Cunning than that...."THEY" broke it not us will be the call from Q!
NJS are operating flights for Q, so they have a good chance of distancing themselves. Of course if it hits the TV with a red tail it may well be harder to convince the public. After a few months though the record will still stand and the masses will forget
J
NJS are operating flights for Q, so they have a good chance of distancing themselves. Of course if it hits the TV with a red tail it may well be harder to convince the public. After a few months though the record will still stand and the masses will forget
J
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Quite correct Capt........I recall a Connie burnt to the ground off shore somewhere. Read about it in a mag not that long back!
How about Jet write off then?
J
How about Jet write off then?
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Ok, for the slow ones out there;
QF own ( or if you like, lease ) the airframe, NJS operate it for them.
I was asking if technically speaking,this could be Qs first jet hull loss.
They have not lost a hull in the jet age nor for the last 57 years ( but who is counting )
Jabba, quite correct, but as you say, if it quacks like a duck .....
QF own ( or if you like, lease ) the airframe, NJS operate it for them.
I was asking if technically speaking,this could be Qs first jet hull loss.
They have not lost a hull in the jet age nor for the last 57 years ( but who is counting )
Jabba, quite correct, but as you say, if it quacks like a duck .....
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Hi Guys,
I've scanned al of the news including NT news and no mention of any incidents or accidents. Am i looking in the wrong place? I'm assuming DRW is Darwin even the the ersa code is YPDN
Marty
I've scanned al of the news including NT news and no mention of any incidents or accidents. Am i looking in the wrong place? I'm assuming DRW is Darwin even the the ersa code is YPDN
Marty
If I recall correctly I read the B-744 involved in the over run accident at Bangkok years ago should probably have been written off but QF didnt want a recorded jet hull loss on the books so they spent over $100m repairing it.
They and the insurance carrier obviously did a deal.
They and the insurance carrier obviously did a deal.
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A hard landing is hardly newsworthy
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They do it well
The "big Q" has some of the most effective advertising and PR that I have seen. I think they are more influential than CASA, and they spend heaps in advertising. If you buy lots of advertising you can influence the media.
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Cunning,
thats Jaba with one b ...but who's counting
Seriously I have to agree with you.
Its duck hunting season!
J
thats Jaba with one b ...but who's counting
Seriously I have to agree with you.
if it quacks like a duck .....
J
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The facts about the BKK over-run have been posted on PPRuNe many times but some people choose to ignore them and push their own agenda. The aircraft was insured for US$187m, repair cost US$96m, therefore it is obvious - no deal done with the insurance company.
Can anyone advise the Wx conditions at the time of the B717 heavy landing?
Can anyone advise the Wx conditions at the time of the B717 heavy landing?
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It's in the ATSB database, although there's little information. It was VH-NXE
http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...200800641.aspx
http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...200800641.aspx
"On final approach the aircraft entered an area of high sink and made a heavy landing. Wrinkling was later found in the aft fuselage. The investigation is continuing."
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Media coverage
Crikey reported it today:
Qantas Boeing 'wrinkled' in hard landing in Darwin
Ben Sandilands writes:
Qantas is in damage control this morning trying to hide a Qantaslink Boeing 717 that was so severely damaged in a hard landing at Darwin last Thursday that it may be a write-off.
No reports, no photos, no survivor interviews, indeed no recognition of any sort has appeared in the media for almost four days. No-one was injured in the "incident" that dared not show its face until an inquiry into it was officially listed on the air safety data base today.
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau says it is investigating the incident which happened in a jet configured with 115 seats and flown by National Jet under contract to Qantas.
The air safety investigator says on its website that "On final approach the aircraft entered an area of high sink and made a heavy landing. Wrinkling was later found in the aft fuselage. Damage: Substantial".
Hundreds of jets enter areas of high sink every day worldwide. And with rare exceptions, they don’t "wrinkle" or end up being rebuilt or scrapped.
ATSB investigations like these look clinically at pilot experience and the training and checking procedures of carriers, as well as factors flight crew are required to deal with, such as wind shear or degraded engine performance that might have affected this flight.
If the damage leads to a write-off it will be the first time this has happened to any passenger jet of size in Australia.
There were 11 Boeing 717s in the Qantaslink fleet.
Qantas Boeing 'wrinkled' in hard landing in Darwin
Ben Sandilands writes:
Qantas is in damage control this morning trying to hide a Qantaslink Boeing 717 that was so severely damaged in a hard landing at Darwin last Thursday that it may be a write-off.
No reports, no photos, no survivor interviews, indeed no recognition of any sort has appeared in the media for almost four days. No-one was injured in the "incident" that dared not show its face until an inquiry into it was officially listed on the air safety data base today.
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau says it is investigating the incident which happened in a jet configured with 115 seats and flown by National Jet under contract to Qantas.
The air safety investigator says on its website that "On final approach the aircraft entered an area of high sink and made a heavy landing. Wrinkling was later found in the aft fuselage. Damage: Substantial".
Hundreds of jets enter areas of high sink every day worldwide. And with rare exceptions, they don’t "wrinkle" or end up being rebuilt or scrapped.
ATSB investigations like these look clinically at pilot experience and the training and checking procedures of carriers, as well as factors flight crew are required to deal with, such as wind shear or degraded engine performance that might have affected this flight.
If the damage leads to a write-off it will be the first time this has happened to any passenger jet of size in Australia.
There were 11 Boeing 717s in the Qantaslink fleet.
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Let's not beat around the bush. QF 1 at BKK was a write off. End of story. Looks like this 717 might be too. And they came awfully close to losing a 737 landing into a microburst at Brisbane. And another 737 near Church Creek. So they are simply normal....for whicch read fallible......and normal mess-ups happen to all sorts of airlines. Pride does not help in prevention.