QF124 - 332 into Mumbai
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QF124 - 332 into Mumbai
It looks like the initial QF A330-200 series op into Mumbai must have been maintainence released by Wun Hung Lo and his mates, as last night's QF124 BOM SYD is still on the ground there.
Passengers were accommodated overnight when the aeroplane arrived without the necessary certification and was not allowed to perform the return leg, and after engineering staff were flown from Singapore, a fuel leak (I am told centre wing tank but this from SLF I have booked on the beast) was discovered. It would seem this led to a crew hours problem and the system is now showing a 1300 departure today.
The fuel leak is a big enough worry in itself, but how does a major international carrier send out a brand new aeroplane without doing all the checks and balances to make sure it comes home?
I have one unhappy punter on it - there would be around 250 odd others as it was a pretty full ship.
Anyone have any more info on this one??
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Passengers were accommodated overnight when the aeroplane arrived without the necessary certification and was not allowed to perform the return leg, and after engineering staff were flown from Singapore, a fuel leak (I am told centre wing tank but this from SLF I have booked on the beast) was discovered. It would seem this led to a crew hours problem and the system is now showing a 1300 departure today.
The fuel leak is a big enough worry in itself, but how does a major international carrier send out a brand new aeroplane without doing all the checks and balances to make sure it comes home?
I have one unhappy punter on it - there would be around 250 odd others as it was a pretty full ship.
Anyone have any more info on this one??
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Sounds entirely indicative of a QF management intent on screwing its employees, rather than keeping their eye on the ball and providing a reliable service.
Anybody think that all the stuff ups over the last few weeks sound eerily familiar with the Ansett operation in its last 10 months of existance?
Shouldn't be surprised of course. Turns out that a number of the clowns who are now at the helm of QF engineering are the same ones who engineered the Ansett's engineering department problems in the years leading up to the company's demise.
Same old mantra, do more with less. Only so much you can cut off the bone before you start cutting off limbs, and that's where I believe QF have now arrived at.
Only a sudden reversal in ideology will prevent the complete fracture of the engineering organisation, and the main core airline as a whole.
Anybody think that all the stuff ups over the last few weeks sound eerily familiar with the Ansett operation in its last 10 months of existance?
Shouldn't be surprised of course. Turns out that a number of the clowns who are now at the helm of QF engineering are the same ones who engineered the Ansett's engineering department problems in the years leading up to the company's demise.
Same old mantra, do more with less. Only so much you can cut off the bone before you start cutting off limbs, and that's where I believe QF have now arrived at.
Only a sudden reversal in ideology will prevent the complete fracture of the engineering organisation, and the main core airline as a whole.
The A330's have been operating to Mumbai for some time (via Darwin). I can't imagine why they would need to fly engineers in from SIN. Plenty of airbus ops through there.
I recall Jetstar had some delays in the past caused by fuel leaks!
I recall Jetstar had some delays in the past caused by fuel leaks!
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It was indeed a brand new A330-200 so most likely VH-EBH.
Central tank leak rather than centre wing tank is more correct I guess.
One wonders what would have happened if the leak was not found, and why it was not before departure on QF123 ex SYD.
The 300 series was doing Mumbai, but via DRW outbound and nonstop return due to range limitations.
The 200 series used by JQ could not be converted due to floor loading limits not allowing the fitment of Skybeds in J class. The new equipment was purpose ordered with higher floor load capability.
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Central tank leak rather than centre wing tank is more correct I guess.
One wonders what would have happened if the leak was not found, and why it was not before departure on QF123 ex SYD.
The 300 series was doing Mumbai, but via DRW outbound and nonstop return due to range limitations.
The 200 series used by JQ could not be converted due to floor loading limits not allowing the fitment of Skybeds in J class. The new equipment was purpose ordered with higher floor load capability.
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The fuel leak is a big enough worry in itself, but how does a major international carrier send out a brand new aeroplane without doing all the checks and balances to make sure it comes home?
What do you think? That QF just picked it up from the factory and sent it straight to BOM?
You should know better than that. The aircraft has been in the country for a few weeks now flying around the place.
In any case, it is back in the air now.
One pissed of PAX out of 250? That happens on every flight.
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Passengers were accommodated overnight
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Oh Spare Me indeed!
I do indeed know better than that, but was referring to the preflight ex SYD as on ANY flight, not just a new aeroplane and I do realise that they filed the plastic bits that came with it when they broke it off the plastic frames in the kit. I just hope they didn't use too much glue in enclosed spaces.
I have one psgr on the flight, but all are fairly pissed off according to him.
I know - it happens!
Still showing 1330 local ETD, but 1420 there now, so who would know.
All including the crew will no doubt be happy to get clear of that fleapit of a country.
Hiya Buster - yes - it is a conspiracy to make LCCs look bad - I bet they even repainted the aeroplane in JQ colours just to throw the public off!
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I do indeed know better than that, but was referring to the preflight ex SYD as on ANY flight, not just a new aeroplane and I do realise that they filed the plastic bits that came with it when they broke it off the plastic frames in the kit. I just hope they didn't use too much glue in enclosed spaces.
I have one psgr on the flight, but all are fairly pissed off according to him.
I know - it happens!
Still showing 1330 local ETD, but 1420 there now, so who would know.
All including the crew will no doubt be happy to get clear of that fleapit of a country.
Hiya Buster - yes - it is a conspiracy to make LCCs look bad - I bet they even repainted the aeroplane in JQ colours just to throw the public off!
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OK.
It is called the Centre Tank. If it had a leak then perhaps they could have not used the Centre Tank and planned a tech stop short of SYD using only wing fuel. (Engines are fed from the Inners on the A330).
I guess all will be revealed. Perhaps it wasn't a "leak"
Arriving without the necessary certification? Are you suggesting EWL that they departed SYD without the Return to Service having been signed? Or without an MR? Oh dear.
It is called the Centre Tank. If it had a leak then perhaps they could have not used the Centre Tank and planned a tech stop short of SYD using only wing fuel. (Engines are fed from the Inners on the A330).
I guess all will be revealed. Perhaps it wasn't a "leak"
Arriving without the necessary certification? Are you suggesting EWL that they departed SYD without the Return to Service having been signed? Or without an MR? Oh dear.
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It appears from what I was told that the SLF were advised that the aeroplane arrived without some required certification.
Maybe as it was the first QF A332 into BOM, there was some requirement for the inevitable "chitties" and paperwork India seems to run on in the best traditions of "why use 1 form when 10 will do".
I did not intend to suggest the aeroplane rolled without an MR as I am sure it would not have.
No doubt all the full details will be available without us speculating soon.
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It appears from what I was told that the SLF were advised that the aeroplane arrived without some required certification.
Maybe as it was the first QF A332 into BOM, there was some requirement for the inevitable "chitties" and paperwork India seems to run on in the best traditions of "why use 1 form when 10 will do".
I did not intend to suggest the aeroplane rolled without an MR as I am sure it would not have.
No doubt all the full details will be available without us speculating soon.
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A refuel isolation valve leak from what I understand was the cause, perhaps spares, resources etc led to the delay considering it wouldn't take much to make the crew run out of hours with a delay on the BOM-SYD sector.
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the skipper on the qf 123 syd-bom reported vibration on final to bom.
a panel approx 12"x12" missing on inspection on ground.
due to delay re lame x sin' qf 124 missed curfew to syd
not all bad news, a family in a slum now have a roof over their heads
a panel approx 12"x12" missing on inspection on ground.
due to delay re lame x sin' qf 124 missed curfew to syd
not all bad news, a family in a slum now have a roof over their heads
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a panel approx 12"x12" missing on inspection on ground.
