Tullamarine CTAF

[SM4 Pirate]

I have seen it hanging on a few consoles. Saw it in the rec-room too; maybe someone printed a few copies. No doubt counselling will ensue.

[Jet_A_Knight]

Did any one think to ask Scurvy D whether he minded 'taking up the slack' ?

[Jabawocky]

LMAO............

Jet_A_Knight

Thts an interesting point......maybe he will have to the poor bugger!

You should note that he is just needing to hold up the Launie CTAF R......can't work hime that hard!

J

[Van Demon]

Staff surplus

quote:

In the case of Launceston, Mr O'Connor said one of seven staff based there was on long-term medical leave and two others had been suffering from poor health.

There are five staff in LT. Buggered if anyone can find the extra two guys, although the cleaner is a pretty good traffic spotter.
I'm sure Mr O'Connor made a genuine mistake though. Asa would never intentionally fib to the media, would they?
There may only be four soon if Palm Fruit continues on his merry way.............................. actually, make that three!

[BN APP 125.6]

Noticed that East of Adelaide was TIBA this afternoon/evening:

ATIS ATIS YMML R 090620
RWY: 16
+ OPR INFO: START CLEARANCE RQ.FOR AIRCRAFT DEPARTING TO
WEST AND NORTH WEST ABOVE FLIGHT LEVEL 240
EXPECT POSSIBLE DELAYS ON COMBINED ACD AND SMC
FREQS DUE STAFF SHORTAGE.
TAXIWAYS CLOSED AS PER NOTAM
+ WND: 110-170/8
CLD: CAVOK
TMP: 34
QNH: 1020



ATIS ATIS YPAD L 090554
RWY: 23
+ OPR INFO: RWY 23 GP NOT AVBL.
TIBA AIRSPACE EAST OF ADELAIDE.
START CLEARANCES RQD TO EAST COAST PORTS
WND: 280/10.
MAX XW 10 KTS
WX: CAVOK
+ TMP: 38
QNH: 1018

Question for the AD APP controllers - is first contact for inbound aircraft a call prior to the boundary (30-40nm?) with Jet Aircraft presumably well on descent requesting an airways clearance?

Sounds very 'interesting'.

Also - what were the 'Start Clearances' for?

[Spodman]

Your TIBA sector for today was CANTY, 127.4, 132.6 & 128.5. Stuff going to YPAD would have called 125.3 at 140 NM east, so would not have been getting a clearance from approach. Start clearances were to provide 10 min longitudinal between aircraft entering the TIBA airspace along the same track.

Expect more of the same until the new sector groupings resulting from the SDE shuffling of the deck chairs are able to cross train. If they are able.

[UnderneathTheRadar]

A fairly large proportion of traffic coming down the east coast for Melbourne yesterday afternoon were getting holds at ELW and other such locations. When questions by a Rex a/c, the controller acknowledged that the delays were at least partly due to the TIBA out west as they needed to reduce the Melbourne TC workload to deal with the TIBA arrivals.

Hope all the affected operators are making loud noises by now!

UTR

PS This going TIBA during the day is a new thing isn't it? There was some TIBA on the NE on weekdays recently too.

[BN APP 125.6]

Spodman:

Start clearances were to provide 10 min longitudinal between aircraft entering the TIBA airspace along the same track.

Is that a requirement of the contingency/continuity plan, or was it something tactically managed on the day? Curious more than anything why a procedural standard was set up for non-controlled airspace, but understand if it was more to give the sector 'catching' them at the other end a fighting chance to gain/retain some kind of separation standard back in to CTA.

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If you take a 'snapshot' look at the traffic around some of these sectors on a normal day, and then imagine what it would be like if all those aircraft were simply broadcasting position reports and trying to self separate....hmmm

[Roger Standby]

My guess is that it was setup for the guy catching them at the other end. ML arrivals sector (YWE 125.7) would have been busy identing them, clearing them, starring them and sequencing all at the same time.

In fact from the guys working that sector, some a/c were calling them up for onwards as soon as they entered TIBA whilst others had to be chased before entering CTA at the other end without a clearance. All good fun.

The last guy who shut the airspace down (and was told by a pilot to go and enjoy an nice cup of tea, lol) had done 10 hours and basically coordinated all the traffic around his sector as far as he could see to get them at different levels before entering TIBA to make sure they weren't gonna hit. Apparently there would have been some very close calls if they'd all gone in at their planned levels (and not spoken to each other).