Tullamarine CTAF
 

Good to see YMML became a CTAF again last night.
Didn't the Emirates Captain sound impressed at having to hold at Apple, until the tower reopened.
When the notam comes out why don't they put the head of ASA mobile number on it, so that we can give a ring and remind what a good job they are doing.
Welcome to Australia.

Where damn lucky that our airspace is all but M/T compared to many OS's places ! We must look like a backyard operator at times, I feel for the ATC guys, their fighting just for decent conditions not just to keep us separated !:ugh:

CW:)

Interesting that Emirates copped it last night, does the sacred cow Qantas ever cop holding while ATC have a break?

yeah I know I posted this in another thread but its rather appropriate I think.............:uhoh:
http://file043b.bebo.com/2/large/200...707299238l.jpg

Pretty well spot on.
What is the avfax code?

Qantas suffer?
 

Stationair8,

Last Sunday morning I heard a news report on ABC radio that Tulla had been shut for 4 hours or so the night before and that Qantas had rescheduled a few flights (sorry, can't remember how many) so as to land outside that time. So yes, Qantas cop it and maybe, unlike Emirates, have contingencies to cope with it.

Was suprised that no-one else mentioned it last week.

UTR.

Would have got a tad interesting if the Emirates skipper said stick it we are diverting to YSSY. Interesting to explain that one to the passengers and media.

I'm assuming that the Emirates company operations manual prohibits such operations, perhaps time for a rewrite for when operating to International backwaters like Oz...;)

"Mayday Mayday Mayday"...next page stupid, the CTAF Call!!!!
 

Its amazing that Emirates would consider ditching an aircraft as opposed to landing on soil controlled by those who have differing political or religious beliefs to them but they cant manage a radio broadcast to land in a CTAF R environment....thats funny!!!!

Maybe when you call the AsA CEO you could suggest that he employ "worlds best practice", become an "employer of choice", and "compete in the global marketplace" that is skilled labour. They might lure some of us, who are separating EK captains in the sandpit, back home.

Then again, they might not. And TIBA is so much cheaper, anyway.

......sheeeez "jaba" I had to laugh at yr piccy:}...although you have the wrong freq promulgated there, it ought to be 121.5 seeing as it's used a lot by the big boys for all soughts of chit chat!!!!
CTAF = Consider Turning Around Folks !!!!:}

CW:}

CX VOL 2 PT 2 says we can operate outside controlled airspace at the commanders discretion provided the TCAS operates normally.

So I assume CX would just check to see the RFF was available, make the required CTAF calls and land on an appropriate rwy. I can't see any problem doing that. Sounds like fun to me.

"Traffic Melbourne Cathay 123........................blah blah blah"

Something different:ok:

Poor Buggers
 

Fancy having to land all by yourself with no-one watching, or talking to you. That's like what they do at Ayers Rock. Shock horror. What next.

A serious question, what type of airspace is TIBA? I can't seem to find an answer in the AIP. I understand how it works, but does the airspace (say a centre frequency for example) still maintain it's airspace classification when TIBA is in operation? Or does it revert to a lower classification?

Will someone let me know if they roll out the CTAF during daylight hours?!

A few loops and barrel rolls in the old Tiger over the termal would make for a good story! :}

There is no change to the 'class' or classification of airpsace subject to TIBA. The change is to the level of service provided in that airspace (i.e. squat all) but the classification doesn't change.

Howard,

Try look up Jepps intro,IFBP-Inflight broadcast procedures.Yangon VYY FIR is one.

Thanks MOG, that is what I thought!:ok:

So by that level of thinking a clearance is still required to operate in the Melbourne Airspace when TIBA is in operation, it isn't a CTAF per se...;)

No clearance is required - who is going to give it to you?

There is no one manning the console, no ATC services at all.

Cheers,

NFR.

Well my understanding is that you already have your clearance, eg: "cleared to Melbourne via Laravale flight planned route, maintain XXX", or "cleared to Melbourne via Wollongong", etc...:ooh:

If you don't require a clerance then the category of airspace must have changed!

I am just trying to get my head around the legalities of the procedure as it is becoming more and MORE common!