Qlink-457 visas for Dash8-400 drivers
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Qlink-457 visas for Dash8-400 drivers
Any truth to the rumer that QLink are looking to get federal approval for 457 visa's for direct entry captains for the 400?
We need Strong union representation NOW - before Lawrie and his band of circus clowns sell us down the river....
We need Strong union representation NOW - before Lawrie and his band of circus clowns sell us down the river....
Who's gunna check em out?
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Qlink just announced a $45000 dollar bonus payable in 2 years too existing captains only. Not worried about retaining future captains at all, just stop the old ones going to virgin or retiring. Strange strategy, but then again logic has never been a strong point here.
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Qantaslink have also announced career progression into Virgin Blue!
Apparently GD will not allow Career Progression into Qantas, he would prefer to waste share holders profits training pilots for the opposition....
Apparently GD will not allow Career Progression into Qantas, he would prefer to waste share holders profits training pilots for the opposition....
Whoaaa...!
nefarious 1, is that True? If it is then it is the first smart thing that QF-link management have done during this whole crisis.
Think about it, If QF-link lose their experienced Captains, then it is literally game over. REX are now finding that the experience level is so low, and with commands running at less than 8 months, most future candidates will not even meet the legal min rquirement to hold a command on the SAAB. A bit academic however, as there will be very few left to train them. Also game over! Based on the expansion plans of the major airlines, DJ, Tiger, VOz, and yes even QF and JQ could take every regional driver in the country and they still won't have enough! So where else are they gonna' get 'em? GA, It's all but dead. Military, just a drop in the bucket. Expats, they'll have to offer much more than they currently are.
The fact is the Regionals are the best and most available source of recruits for the major airlines. REX management, whilst acknowledging this fact have decided to do squat about it. To date QFlink have instigated a half assed retention plan that was nothing short of an insult. The money would have been better spent on a decent Xmas party for staff!
If this latest rumour is true, then I think the penny may have finally dropped at QF-link.
What remains to be seen is whether it is not too late, and whether it is enough? IMHO if this was floated a year ago, it would have been very effective. Now? I think the amount is probably 30% shy of what's required.
nefarious 1, is that True? If it is then it is the first smart thing that QF-link management have done during this whole crisis.
Think about it, If QF-link lose their experienced Captains, then it is literally game over. REX are now finding that the experience level is so low, and with commands running at less than 8 months, most future candidates will not even meet the legal min rquirement to hold a command on the SAAB. A bit academic however, as there will be very few left to train them. Also game over! Based on the expansion plans of the major airlines, DJ, Tiger, VOz, and yes even QF and JQ could take every regional driver in the country and they still won't have enough! So where else are they gonna' get 'em? GA, It's all but dead. Military, just a drop in the bucket. Expats, they'll have to offer much more than they currently are.
The fact is the Regionals are the best and most available source of recruits for the major airlines. REX management, whilst acknowledging this fact have decided to do squat about it. To date QFlink have instigated a half assed retention plan that was nothing short of an insult. The money would have been better spent on a decent Xmas party for staff!
If this latest rumour is true, then I think the penny may have finally dropped at QF-link.
What remains to be seen is whether it is not too late, and whether it is enough? IMHO if this was floated a year ago, it would have been very effective. Now? I think the amount is probably 30% shy of what's required.
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The solution is simple.
40% retention bonus per year for all pilots after their initial bond period expires, forget paying for the endorsement, (rediculous).
Progression into Mainline after 5 years.
Do that and your crewing problems will be gone forever. If you think that is too expensive, then you might as well park the fleet and get out of the regional business altogether.
40% retention bonus per year for all pilots after their initial bond period expires, forget paying for the endorsement, (rediculous).
Progression into Mainline after 5 years.
Do that and your crewing problems will be gone forever. If you think that is too expensive, then you might as well park the fleet and get out of the regional business altogether.
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newsensation- you idiot, you wouldn't be a "senior F/O" by any chance would you?. Bugger everyone else as long as you're ok....... Let me guess - the seniority no would match, just by chance, about where you are?
ALL, repeat ALL pilots should be given the payment.
At the present time there are only 6 or so F/O's in the company who have the experience to take a command, but then again they were told 18 months ago when MD said " we don't see thet we will have a problem with crew numbers" If Eastern Syd were not a sheltered workshop they torch the joint and start again.
ALL, repeat ALL pilots should be given the payment.
At the present time there are only 6 or so F/O's in the company who have the experience to take a command, but then again they were told 18 months ago when MD said " we don't see thet we will have a problem with crew numbers" If Eastern Syd were not a sheltered workshop they torch the joint and start again.
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Pushing Sh*% up a hill....
How long will the Regional Q'link guys/girls keep calling for progression You know deep down what Qantas Mainline think of YOU ( the poor redneck country cousins) far to inferior to be considerered to fly an ELITE Qantas Jet... after all QF invented the wing you know and have never had an accident (yeah right Bangkok..). You all stay out there beating around in the bush where you belong ........ Now I wish you did have progression Q,Link to Mainline > but understanding the mentality of Mainline drivers/managers and you know it will never be so. Simple answer ...Leave Q,Link worked for me..
You know deep down what Qantas Mainline think of YOU ( the poor redneck country cousins) far to inferior to be considerered to fly an ELITE Qantas Jet... after all QF invented the wing you know and have never had an accident (yeah right Bangkok..). You all stay out there beating around in the bush where you belong ........ Now I wish you did have progression Q,Link to Mainline > but understanding the mentality of Mainline drivers/managers and you know it will never be so. Simple answer ...Leave Q,Link worked for me..
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With all due respect, your constant Management bashing is a tad boring.
Because it isn't that the QF management won't allow career progression for the Regional drivers. it's the Mainline drivers that wont allow it.
Its simple.
A QF747 Captain has scant regard or even any empathy with a Regional pilot.
Nor do they want them amongst their rank.
I could be wrong...
But I saw it with AN/KD and so it remains to this day.
But your solution is apt.
Sorry I should read other post as this is a repeat of the previous post.
But clearly this attitude about Regional pilots is an indication why most Regional pilot will jump ship at any opportunity, regardless of pay, to the majors.
Fark all that management can do when the market is in its current state.
Pardon the 'boring' comment call.
With all due respect, your constant Management bashing is a tad boring.
Because it isn't that the QF management won't allow career progression for the Regional drivers. it's the Mainline drivers that wont allow it.
Its simple.
A QF747 Captain has scant regard or even any empathy with a Regional pilot.
Nor do they want them amongst their rank.
I could be wrong...
But I saw it with AN/KD and so it remains to this day.
But your solution is apt.
Sorry I should read other post as this is a repeat of the previous post.
But clearly this attitude about Regional pilots is an indication why most Regional pilot will jump ship at any opportunity, regardless of pay, to the majors.
Fark all that management can do when the market is in its current state.
Pardon the 'boring' comment call.
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Sadly it has always been about protecting ones own turf...
Perhaps one day the entire company will be united! I live in hope that it will happen!
Perhaps one day the entire company will be united! I live in hope that it will happen!
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Qantas never had an accident???????
I remember reading in a "crash comic" about a Lockheed Constellation operated by "an Australian international airline" that crashed after an engine failure on takeoff. It over ran the runway and burned. The pax got off, but one pax was injured.
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Either of you two clowns even bothered to pick up a phone and talk to say ,the president of AIPA ,and see if anything reference career progression and the Group Opportunity List is going on?
Thought not!
You might be plesantly surprised!
Thought not!
You might be plesantly surprised!
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Put your Oxy masks on.
I'm guessing your both a tad euphoric.
The list you refer to has been under the heel of a QF747 Captain for lets say 15 to 20 years now.
The only think that will save you will be the support "The List' gets from the members, let alone it getting presented at an extraordinary meeting with Management at QF.
Just can never see it happening.
I saw it not happen at APA and would choke to see it happen with the 'Sky Gods'.
Put your Oxy masks on.
I'm guessing your both a tad euphoric.
The list you refer to has been under the heel of a QF747 Captain for lets say 15 to 20 years now.
The only think that will save you will be the support "The List' gets from the members, let alone it getting presented at an extraordinary meeting with Management at QF.
Just can never see it happening.
I saw it not happen at APA and would choke to see it happen with the 'Sky Gods'.
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As a previous poster said they dont seem to worried about furure captains leaving. There are no real extras offered by management for experienced Q'Link FO's or experienced GA guys to stay there. They just want to plug the gaps with low time FO's or cadets it seems, and keep the captains working extra hard.
Its great to see extra money for the Captians, however.
We need to get some of these extra payments put into on going documents, ie EBA's. Sure some extra money is great but it needs to be preserved for the future years and future staff.
It will disapear as soon as they find a way out of the present bind.
bulla.
Its great to see extra money for the Captians, however.
We need to get some of these extra payments put into on going documents, ie EBA's. Sure some extra money is great but it needs to be preserved for the future years and future staff.
It will disapear as soon as they find a way out of the present bind.
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KEV can I ask what you mean by this? It is interesting
Nothing more than that the ideal situation should be that people be given an opportunity for career progression through a 'group company'.
Past attempts from organizations have fallen very flat, very quickly..
....blah blah blah...
just pointless drivel really....
KEV can I ask what you mean by this? It is interesting
Nothing more than that the ideal situation should be that people be given an opportunity for career progression through a 'group company'.
Past attempts from organizations have fallen very flat, very quickly..
....blah blah blah...
just pointless drivel really....
Nunc est bibendum
Kev9 is full of ****e and I'm a tad surprised that Howard has gone along for the ride.
To add further comment to Direct Anywhere's post. It's the current AIPA that is pushing the QF group hard for a group opportunity list. It's the management (and Geoff Dixon specifically) that have refused to consider the GOL. I and every other QF driver have that in writing with Geoff Dixon's signature on the bottom of the letter from about 12 months ago. This was in response to AIPA putting the idea to them.
The overwhelming majority of crew that I fly with have nothing but the utmost respect for the work done by the regional guys and gals and the skills that they bring with them to the mainline operation.
So as you can see both the AIPA and it's members believe in what the regionals bring to the table. Anyone pushing the line that AIPA or mainline crew as a rule don't support the regionals is either ignorant or pushing an agenda. Which is it Kev?
(Actually your last post says it all....pointless drivel!).
To add further comment to Direct Anywhere's post. It's the current AIPA that is pushing the QF group hard for a group opportunity list. It's the management (and Geoff Dixon specifically) that have refused to consider the GOL. I and every other QF driver have that in writing with Geoff Dixon's signature on the bottom of the letter from about 12 months ago. This was in response to AIPA putting the idea to them.
The overwhelming majority of crew that I fly with have nothing but the utmost respect for the work done by the regional guys and gals and the skills that they bring with them to the mainline operation.
So as you can see both the AIPA and it's members believe in what the regionals bring to the table. Anyone pushing the line that AIPA or mainline crew as a rule don't support the regionals is either ignorant or pushing an agenda. Which is it Kev?
(Actually your last post says it all....pointless drivel!).