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VB Boeing 737 Training Captain Based in Brisbane and Salary Sacrificing $33000 into Super (plus $17000 Employer)
December Pay in the bank was $10,256.45 (including overnight allowances for November).
No Overtime / 10 nights away
November $11,148.45
October $10,207.90
September $13,171.46
Tax refund for 06/07 year $18708.79
TTF METAR YBBN 142130Z 14005KT 9999 FEW028 BKN300 25/18 Q1016
I'm sure for a lot of pilots and their families a move overseas is worthwhile both financially and professionally.
For me and my family it wasn't.
For those that do go overseas, enjoy the experience but go for the right reasons and remember where your home is, how to achieve your return to where you want to be, and what accent you want your children to have when they visit you in the retirement home!
December Pay in the bank was $10,256.45 (including overnight allowances for November).
No Overtime / 10 nights away
November $11,148.45
October $10,207.90
September $13,171.46
Tax refund for 06/07 year $18708.79
TTF METAR YBBN 142130Z 14005KT 9999 FEW028 BKN300 25/18 Q1016
I'm sure for a lot of pilots and their families a move overseas is worthwhile both financially and professionally.
For me and my family it wasn't.
For those that do go overseas, enjoy the experience but go for the right reasons and remember where your home is, how to achieve your return to where you want to be, and what accent you want your children to have when they visit you in the retirement home!
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Horses for courses - why do people want to get so passionate about it???
I would happily go to the sand pit if the $$$ were enough, for me it is not so I will stay in OZ. My choice.
If they set up an OZ basing would also look at it, again under the same parameters.
I would happily go to the sand pit if the $$$ were enough, for me it is not so I will stay in OZ. My choice.
If they set up an OZ basing would also look at it, again under the same parameters.
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If Emirates, or Etihad, or Qatar for that matter, open a base in Aus, you can have my 737 left seat. I won't stick around long enough to turn thr lights out at VB. I'd happily do the first 5 years in the gulf too.
I wish I felt loyalty to these people but it ain't going to happen.
I wish I felt loyalty to these people but it ain't going to happen.
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Most are correct here when they talk about the lifestyle versus money when thinking about flying overseas. However something to think about is that both are achievable if you are prepared to do at least a few years overseas (and maybe young enough as well). Just trying to share my own personal experiences.
I have been away from home for 10 years and am a couple of months away from starting a new job back home and returning with my family. Everyone has a different opinion of what 'lifestyle' is. I left when I was unmarried and had no kids and for many years at the start of my expat career I think I had a pretty good lifestyle. It wasn't until my family came along later that we grew tired of carting kids all around the world and started looking for ways to go back home.
Becoming an expat propelled my career and provided me great financial reward for very little sacrifice in the early years. I am lucky that with the current demand for experienced drivers down under I am able to slip back into the industry at the very time I would like to cease living overseas. Without trying to offend, the excuse of not leaving home because of the lack of lifestyle overseas is often used by those that have never done so. Most of my colleagues don't consider their lifestyle that bad but also most would like to return home in at some point in the future.
If I had to do it again I wouldn't change a thing and I will always look back on my decision to leave home as one of the best things I ever did. Nothing has to be forever and now I have the ability to watch my young kids grows up back home and be alot more comfortable financially in the process than I would have been if I had not left.
Go with a mind to giving it 5 or 10 years to get ahead and then look at coming back.
I have been away from home for 10 years and am a couple of months away from starting a new job back home and returning with my family. Everyone has a different opinion of what 'lifestyle' is. I left when I was unmarried and had no kids and for many years at the start of my expat career I think I had a pretty good lifestyle. It wasn't until my family came along later that we grew tired of carting kids all around the world and started looking for ways to go back home.
Becoming an expat propelled my career and provided me great financial reward for very little sacrifice in the early years. I am lucky that with the current demand for experienced drivers down under I am able to slip back into the industry at the very time I would like to cease living overseas. Without trying to offend, the excuse of not leaving home because of the lack of lifestyle overseas is often used by those that have never done so. Most of my colleagues don't consider their lifestyle that bad but also most would like to return home in at some point in the future.
If I had to do it again I wouldn't change a thing and I will always look back on my decision to leave home as one of the best things I ever did. Nothing has to be forever and now I have the ability to watch my young kids grows up back home and be alot more comfortable financially in the process than I would have been if I had not left.
Go with a mind to giving it 5 or 10 years to get ahead and then look at coming back.
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777,
guess we won't be seeing you over in Dubai, No loss there.
Plenty of places to drive to around here. (We are on the coast you know.)
Oman lovely this time of year.
Well enjoy yourself,
got to go, popping off to Vienna now. Ciao Ciao.
guess we won't be seeing you over in Dubai, No loss there.
Plenty of places to drive to around here. (We are on the coast you know.)
Oman lovely this time of year.
Well enjoy yourself,
got to go, popping off to Vienna now. Ciao Ciao.
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captaintunedog777,
firstly, why are you getting so worked up??????????
what is with all of the "bold" text?
secondly, "chieftens" is spelt "chieftains"
Thirdly, despite what you think, there are people that are actually making the move. You appear to me to be very narrow minded.
Fourthly, based on your posts I wouldn't let you fly a kite let alone an aeroplane.
Everybody else, the posts are great so far!
LeMeL
firstly, why are you getting so worked up??????????
what is with all of the "bold" text?
secondly, "chieftens" is spelt "chieftains"
Thirdly, despite what you think, there are people that are actually making the move. You appear to me to be very narrow minded.
Fourthly, based on your posts I wouldn't let you fly a kite let alone an aeroplane.
Everybody else, the posts are great so far!
LeMeL
All the crap aside - it's all about your and your families' priorities....
if you are happy with pushing tin around domestically in a comfy easy environment then be satisfied with that - get off your computer and go out and enjoy that lifestyle that you value so much.
We made the '10 year overseas' plan some time ago based on things like;
life experience/adventure, career advancement & superior net renumeration.
So far it has been a complete success and we wouldn't change a thing. After several months back in OZ the wife couldn't wait to get back to this "pitiful existance" we have here amongst her horrible lifestyle, terrible network of friends, shocking social activites, rattley old 1 year old car etc...get my drift? Me, great equipment, good coin (more always needed), great network, great guys to fly with etc etc.
"Go your own way"
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if you are happy with pushing tin around domestically in a comfy easy environment then be satisfied with that - get off your computer and go out and enjoy that lifestyle that you value so much.
We made the '10 year overseas' plan some time ago based on things like;
life experience/adventure, career advancement & superior net renumeration.
So far it has been a complete success and we wouldn't change a thing. After several months back in OZ the wife couldn't wait to get back to this "pitiful existance" we have here amongst her horrible lifestyle, terrible network of friends, shocking social activites, rattley old 1 year old car etc...get my drift? Me, great equipment, good coin (more always needed), great network, great guys to fly with etc etc.
"Go your own way"
METAR: OMDB 150500Z 03005KT CAVOK 22/15 Q1020 NOSIG
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Not being a smartie or anything here but most blokes start out in aviation with BIG plans and dreams including flying a nice BIG aeroplane like 747, 777 etc. Most of the comments here are very mercenary and looking at $$$$$ only, and lifestyle occasionally. Lets face it, if a VB/J* pilot wants to fly something a little bigger than an aeroplane that fits into the engine nacelle of a 777 then he (she) will most likely have to consider somewhere like EK or some other OS airline that has this on offer... Bug smashing all your life on 4 sector days is not everything you know, and may not fulfill ones ambitions and dreams, depending on what they are...
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me,
I think that most people would be happy flying a jet, period. It doesn't necessarily have to be a big jet.
With that aside I think the next thing to consider is terms & conditions and lifestyle. I make no apology in wanting to be paid well. I have many friends in various other industries that take jobs or move on for better pay. The bottom line is that flying an aeroplane is a job for me. I need a job to survive and make ends meat. Granted I do love my job and have a genuine passion for it, but should I settle for low salary and poor conditions because of it? I have read on these forums people saying "if you really love flying you won't care how much you get paid". I am sorry, but love alone won't pay the mortgage and feed the wife and kids!
By the way, I am not having a dig at you. I am just telling it as I see it.
LeMeL
I think that most people would be happy flying a jet, period. It doesn't necessarily have to be a big jet.
With that aside I think the next thing to consider is terms & conditions and lifestyle. I make no apology in wanting to be paid well. I have many friends in various other industries that take jobs or move on for better pay. The bottom line is that flying an aeroplane is a job for me. I need a job to survive and make ends meat. Granted I do love my job and have a genuine passion for it, but should I settle for low salary and poor conditions because of it? I have read on these forums people saying "if you really love flying you won't care how much you get paid". I am sorry, but love alone won't pay the mortgage and feed the wife and kids!
By the way, I am not having a dig at you. I am just telling it as I see it.
LeMeL
very clever ruprecht.
neville,
for sure it is really stinking hot for 3 months over summer - but the spring/autumn isn't as unbearable as i thought...bit like living in Darwin. It is easy to escape the heat here - just not a lot of outdoor activity.
for sure it is really stinking hot for 3 months over summer - but the spring/autumn isn't as unbearable as i thought...bit like living in Darwin. It is easy to escape the heat here - just not a lot of outdoor activity.
me
Get a grip..
I'm growing reeeal tired of the extreme views on this topic,both on these boards,and in the flight deck... "so and so is bloody mad to be going to the sandpit,what's he thinking??!"
It's very much a case of horses for courses,each path has its pro's and con's,but at the end of the day its a personal lifestyle choice,some of you guys are hanging on WAY too tight.
Personally,I think OZ is miles ahead for families,but you have to put up with a satisfying career at the flying circus that is virgin. For the late 20's/early 30's single bloke,what have you got to lose?
I know what i'd be doing if I had my time again.
It's very much a case of horses for courses,each path has its pro's and con's,but at the end of the day its a personal lifestyle choice,some of you guys are hanging on WAY too tight.
Personally,I think OZ is miles ahead for families,but you have to put up with a satisfying career at the flying circus that is virgin
. For the late 20's/early 30's single bloke,what have you got to lose?I know what i'd be doing if I had my time again.
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Everyone sees things which affect them. For me, a 30 something, I invest a lot of income, once one does this gross/net pay becomes much closer. For me the EK deal falls well short financially. If your income is 100% disposable or you have multiple kids it's great then(or if ex wives are after you). Also remember what will you do in 10yrs when you return. No house, no routine, new life, less family & fewer friends. Essentially you, your wife, & children will have to begin a new life once more. If that's OK then EK will suit fine. Again what works with some won't with others, that's life.