The Big Merged QF Engineering Thread
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The Forstaff ship sails into Tulla on monday 
all mercenaries aboard I'm told but only one LAME among them mmmmm now I'm suspicious either the LAMEs are no longer spineless or this deals stinks to high heaven
what are the allowances are they award ?
all mercenaries aboard I'm told but only one LAME among them mmmmm now I'm suspicious either the LAMEs are no longer spineless or this deals stinks to high heaven
what are the allowances are they award ?
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Allowances , are they award?
The allowances are not as per the agreement. In fact, Qantas and Forstaff have offered less than the agreement to go to Tulla. The Forstaff EBA is specific in the terms to apply in this case and yet less is offered because they feel that the agreed rate is too much.
The staff going to Tulla must be really keen to escape working at Avalon. The offered rate is kicked up to a sizable amount if you live at Geelong as it's boosted by a travelling allowance, so most of those going live at Geelong or Lara.
What is ludicrous is that the ALAEA and the AWU has told them that they are being underpaid, yet these bunnies accept less anyway.
So begs the question. Why would anyone undermine the agreement by accepting less than the agreed rate? The answer is that they are not members of any union and don't care what happens at any establishment, just so long as they get THEIR money (which will gradually reduce as the managements get their way).
The staff going to Tulla must be really keen to escape working at Avalon. The offered rate is kicked up to a sizable amount if you live at Geelong as it's boosted by a travelling allowance, so most of those going live at Geelong or Lara.
What is ludicrous is that the ALAEA and the AWU has told them that they are being underpaid, yet these bunnies accept less anyway.
So begs the question. Why would anyone undermine the agreement by accepting less than the agreed rate? The answer is that they are not members of any union and don't care what happens at any establishment, just so long as they get THEIR money (which will gradually reduce as the managements get their way).
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I feel that Qantas Engineering Management and those above perceive those on the hangar floor with maintenance skills as a necessary evil which drives down their profits, and therefore look on those people with utter contempt.
In my humble opinion, they thought they could successfully de-skill Qantas Engineering and find slots for their aircraft O/S.
This of course backfired, due to a lack of experience in aviation planning, we all know that new aircraft never meet their target delivery date, so you have to keep maintaining your old crates.
Then there's training for the new aircraft. When is that all going to happen?
There's my two cents worth....................
P.S. One of the Planning Managers from Qantas came down to Avalon and gave a presentation for their Exell Award, he told us that he received an e-mail from "Geoff" to say how well we had done, presented a couple of LED booklamps and we all got an apple, apiece of mudcake and, wait for it, a biscuit in it's own special little box. If that ain't contempt......What is?
In my humble opinion, they thought they could successfully de-skill Qantas Engineering and find slots for their aircraft O/S.
This of course backfired, due to a lack of experience in aviation planning, we all know that new aircraft never meet their target delivery date, so you have to keep maintaining your old crates.
Then there's training for the new aircraft. When is that all going to happen?
There's my two cents worth....................
P.S. One of the Planning Managers from Qantas came down to Avalon and gave a presentation for their Exell Award, he told us that he received an e-mail from "Geoff" to say how well we had done, presented a couple of LED booklamps and we all got an apple, apiece of mudcake and, wait for it, a biscuit in it's own special little box. If that ain't contempt......What is?
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Luxury
All we ever got in Sydney Heavy was a box of donuts to share.
We used to dream of an apple and mudcake!
And a biscuit was beyond our wildest dreams.
In the end all we got was in fact DONUT.
All we ever got in Sydney Heavy was a box of donuts to share.
We used to dream of an apple and mudcake!
And a biscuit was beyond our wildest dreams.
In the end all we got was in fact DONUT.
The demise of QF heavy engineering started as far back as 1998 when PAcer and SUPERQIK were shutdown and replaced with CAMSYS. Av part of the process, the production planning dept on M189/1 was disbandoned.
These guys had up to 40 years experiance and knew intimately what was going to be needed for any phase check, and with consultation of the relevent engineers meant there were allways the required parts on the shelf, WHEN they were needed. Stores allways carried enough parts in stock to enable aircraft to get out in time.
When production planning in SYD was disbandoned in 98, it was sent down to Melbourne where unskilled clerks did the same job, none had any aircraft or aviation knowledge.
The results speak for them selves.
I was there from 90 to 98.
These guys had up to 40 years experiance and knew intimately what was going to be needed for any phase check, and with consultation of the relevent engineers meant there were allways the required parts on the shelf, WHEN they were needed. Stores allways carried enough parts in stock to enable aircraft to get out in time.
When production planning in SYD was disbandoned in 98, it was sent down to Melbourne where unskilled clerks did the same job, none had any aircraft or aviation knowledge.
The results speak for them selves.
I was there from 90 to 98.
