Romulus

Interesting. Nobody I know at ANZ ES/TO backs this timeframe up. Admittedly that's only 3 people but they SHOULD be in positions to know.

Key question that arises then is why did VB give us the later work knowing that these were the timeframes?

Um, OK, I thought this was addressing your point.

Equally good to see you drop the issue about JHAS meeting your timeframe needs by saving time trough dodgy maintenance practices although it would have been good to get your final view on that one.



We need a national presence why exactly? Should I be planning to maintain 380s out of Cairns?

As for the LAME pool that's growing rapidly, we're committed to a training program to expand it further and we'll see how we go.

And yes, the RFT was Line AND Base.

Torqueman

Not what I have heard on the grape vine...........

I hear that some back pedaling is taking place and training is being postponed.......

The question is why are you not pushing on with the B1, B2 training while awaiting the A380 outcome?

Your guys will be better placed in the future with it anyway with the new licence system and aircraft types. Even if the A380 falls through, there are other EASA type jets coming onto the register soonish.

Romulus

Ah, now there's a valid source of information!

It's certainly true that I (note this is a personal statement) would have liked to have Pt 66 type training underway. Equally we're catching up on a backlog of human factors and all the other important required bits.

Plus we actually need some final direction from CASA as to what will and will not be in their version of the regs as opposed to EASA. Given the legislation isn't actually finalised yet I accept CASA can't yet give us this, they have however been pretty generous with their time to help us sort out what is likely to happen.

Agreed.

Equally despite doubling the workforce we're still running pretty close to capacity so we need to take care to schedule everything properly to ensure we don't cause any human factors problems, miss dealines etc and of course we still need to tie in with relevant training course dates.

VBA Engineer

Romulus,

Because the Kiwi's were flat out doing the nose to tail LiveTV installations and Virgin Tech were flat out taking over Jet Care, you are a solution for overflow work.

Not sure what you are getting at with this one, if I have inferred that JHAS are dodgy then I am happy to correct that as it is not my view, but I don't recall ever implying it or suggesting it as a solution for late delivery.

SUB

Anyone with any ideas where this A380 training will take place, can it be carried out in OZ, what about the PCT ??

Bolty McBolt

Romulus...

QF has been told by CASA that if they intend to only license a few on the new big bird, the people they train had better have plenty of cross trade experience and many years experience in maintenance of large pax aircraft.

Jet * international are also looking for the exact same qualifications as they cannot fill the 787 training slots from internal vacancies, so they too are advertising. ( I personally refuse to pay those priques the $15 dollar application fee)

Virgin and their international fleet will probably need same....

JHAS Will be looking for the same qualifications, how will you fill your requirement, Import?
I guess I am asking...How much?

domo

After seeing the thing in comercial operation Im thinking of banging in an expression of interest, QANTAS nearly sucked the life out of me. but seeing a new type in comercial operation i am excited again.
ps heard big kev is gone to stores

Syd eng

Kev gone for short term Secondment to Dispatch reliability. Hespe the boss for a little while.

Going to throw an EOI in too, pity I don't meet the minimum criteria. Will apply just to make sure they spend some time looking.

PitPin

Heard today that JHAS lames in Mel have been advised of the training dates and location for EASA b1 conversion training ,the A380 type training as well as PCT . QF slow as usual !

No SAR No Details

I heard on the Grape Vine that the ASC may be asked to look at Peter Greggs dealings with QF and JHAS and conflicts of interest in the awarding of maintenance contracts.
Anyone shed any light?

QF slow as usual..... the birdy says that QF are paying JHAS to do the training to provide a second party for the tendering process, to attempt to screw the prices down for the ACS bid.

What has the world come to?

Romulus

Correct. 10 December for B1.

We may not win but we'll push ACS as hard as we can.

Romulus

Yep. Peter Gregg has had a grand total of zero involvement from our end.

If it were as simple as ringing up and saying "Hey Pete sign the contracts I'm Express Posting you then stick me in first class for a stint in the Bahamas" Mrs Romulus would be very happy.

Problem is that I and the rest of the JHAS team have to work frigging hard to win the work, so do us the courtesy of judging us on our merits. So far we're ahead of the ACS guys from what we can tell, whether that will be enough to get us over the line I somehow doubt, but by the required date we'll have everything ready and be giving it our best shot.

Problem is that we made it through the preliminary rounds by doing something so very different in terms of pricing and delivery programming that unless ACS fundamentally changes their business model the structure simply doesn't allow that to happen easily.

Um, October 31 2008?




Note: Edit to get my quote marks correct

wingers

Romulus,

You are the best i have ever seen, your online strategy will be studied by many business schools, (not being sarcastic) true poetry.. one defines its oposition by ones actions... those actions are in effect reflective...

Romulus

Um, I think that's meant to be an insult (given the thumbs down thing).

But if you're defining me and my actions as being reflective of the opposition then I'm pretty happy to be very different to them so in a roundabout kind of way, my thanks!

Redstone

Romulus, how many people are you part66/A380 training in the first wave?

satmstr

hey Romulus, just been reading this thread and been wondering a couple of things.

1. Does JHAS Have Easa Part 145 Approval?
2. Does JHAS have a hangar big enough to fit the A380 In. Becuase as you are probably aware this is a requirement under easa part 145 regs which i have extracted and put below.

145.A.25 Facility requirements
The organisation shall ensure that:
(a) Facilities are provided appropriate for all planned work, ensuring in particular, protection from the weather
elements. Specialised workshops and bays are segregated as appropriate, to ensure that environmental and work area
contamination is unlikely to occur.
1. For base maintenance of aircraft, aircraft hangars are both available and large enough to accommodate aircraft on
planned base maintenance;
2. For component maintenance, component workshops are large enough to accommodate the components on
planned maintenance.

I am also wondering how the conversion to B1 for your current Mech Engineers is going to pan out, currently i have heard that the B1 conversion is a restricted B1 license until more exams are done.

Also have you started training for Cat C personnel so they can sign the release to service?

Not having a dig romulus just trying to see were JHAS is at ?

Thanks Satmstr

company_spy

If I may be so bold.....

satmstr, Qantas (the "airline" who own all the stuff) own the hangar in Sydney. Who ever wins the bid get to use all the toys.

Part 66 conversion courses run in Qld at Aviation Australia, required training for an unrestricted B1 outcome, now obviously if you start with mech guys who hold avionic extensions and maint. authorities your burden on training is very low.

A cat "A" part 66 can sign a release to service. A cat "B" part 66 can sign a release to service. You may be thinking of a "Maintenance Release" but the depth of maint will be to A or part A check only. No idea who is going to do the heavy stuff.

Just off topic, is appears that Qf have been sold the A380 with assurances from Airbus that this aircraft is so well designed and made that maintenance will be practically non existant. Just gas her up and change the odd wheel..... now if you believe that I have a nice bridge for sale

Romulus

Without going into specifics (for obvious reasons) we have allowed for a minimum coverage of B1, B2 and additionals to cover every shift required by the operating schedule we have been given.

Some other interesting stuff in the scheduling as well, given that's a potential advantage to us I must politely decline to share the info here.

Some numbers were given to our people at the last all hands info session on Wednesday.

Romulus

Answering Q2 first: Hangar 145 in MEL will house most of an 800 series 380. A good construction company could add mobile fully enclosed tail docking without a problem. Taxiway tracking has been orally approved with CASA, facilities requirements for floor loadings are being covered by some structural people we happen to know quite well.

Sometimes things come together nicely.

Components space is no problem at all. Ansett must have spent a fortune on those facilities, despite 5 years of administration they are still in very good shape and they are freaking huge. We're doing some general tidying up and they're coming along nicely.

To answer Q1: EASA audit starts tomorow and lasts for a full week. Exposition has been in for some time, not perfect but not unworkable either. I'm sure we'll have some more work to do, equally I'm confident we'll be passed.


As I understand it on July 1 next year all current LAMEs automatically become either a restricted B1 or restricted B2 unless they do some extra work/exams. Some guys have gone out and done that of their own accord, as an example I told one of our guys to bring in his receipts and I'll reimburse him for the expense. Plus he's on A380 program if he wants to be, initiative must be rewarded.

Some discussion with CASA as to how Cat C will work in Australia. No training as yet because until CASA resolve what is actually required to be covered nobody can write a course.

No probs. Always happy to share as much non confidential info as I can.

Romulus

Which would cover part of Sunfish's previous concerns. This would structure the deal so QF can never be locked out of doing the work themselves if they desire. Smart move. Do you think they took that option?