SeldomFixit

What, if any share, does Qantas hold in JHAS ?

company_spy

I believe JHAS are B1/B2 training in Melbourne, thats the roumer I heard anyway.

QF22

Ok thanx makes sense to do the trg in MEL rather than BNE.
Cheers

QF22

Has Romulus been gagged ! or is he just in the poo with the missus ?

grouter

Can't you be quiet, ffs, nobody knows that qf paid for their bid for the 380 maint. oops, said too much already. Ask m, and I've no doubt he'll tell you the truth

shitthatsbig

I heard that too....In Mel at KBT. Also, heard again that the QF guys in BNE are failing badly.

I wonder if they (???) kept the courses in separate states on purpose?

cementhead

I thought avaition australia was the only place that ran B1 limitation lifting courses, might do it in melbourne seem they use qantas methods(gems)

thosecotos

With the exception of a couple of Human Factors essay failures, the VB boys didn't have any troubles doing B1 gap at Aviation Australia in BNE

another superlame

Please excuse my ignorance but what does the B1 training have to do with the A380? I have seen it mentioned but I am still not 100% sure what it is about.

SeldomFixit

Which is why you are Another Superlame and not THE super lame

another superlame

Boom Boom

Right you are

QF22

Ok I'll have a go, my rough interpretation, don't shoot the messenger pls.
Bcoz A380 is a new type it has to be done under the new CAO 100.66 system, ala CASA's verion of EASA Pt 66 B1.
Unless you have previously done and/or held extension basics/electronics fundamentals, or an E,I,R Maintenance Authority, or have recognition of prior learning assessed for Aviation Australia, you have undertake a course of training (now this is the bit I am unsure of) before you undertake the A380 B1 or B2 course.
Essentially for the greasers you have to do E&I bits, and for coneheads they have to do the mechanical bits, b4 they do the A380 or any other new type for that matter.
I am sure somebody will cut n paste the appropriate material from CASA site, to give us the offocial explanation.
Goodluck to all.
Cheers

another superlame

Thanks QF22 it clears it up a little.
What were the essential requirements for the QF boys to get considered for 380 training.
Were there any requirements or did you need to know people and enjoy chow mein every so often?
From what I have been told all their candidates are old boys due for retirement,but happy to have one more jolly on the company.
If this is the case you would assume a little bit of foresight would have come into the equation, and they could train some young blood up so they don't lose all there experience at the same time.

Does anyone know if the JHAS boys are older or younger?

AEROMEDIC

There is definitely one there at JHAS that is an "oldie".

He has changed jobs more times than anyone I know in the last 3-4 years. Nice guy , but is a "type course addict". He's also on the verge of retirement.

QF22

No probs,happy to help, but my explanation not d best.
I am no longer with QF so I have no idea how they select their 380 guys.
Just my opinion, but logically for me the 1st guys wud b older with MA/Extensions, easy to convert them to B1.
Follow them up with some younger guys after they have completed Part 66 conversion.
But QF don't make logical decisions anymore.
Cheers

QF22

No surprises there, I have been on the losing end off those interviews myself, they are a load of rubbish !
Qantas have created their own mess, let them sort it out now.
I think SIA had their 380 LAE's trained a year or two before their 1st 380 arrived.

Chopper OZ

Yeah... all 5 of them

chemical alli

easy way to work on a 380 ,go down to your local mitsubishi dealer and buy one.

Managers Perspective

For clarity, CAO 100.66 provides the EASA Pt 66 licence option for those that wish to use it prior to CASA Pt66 being released.

It is not mandatory in any form and it is not a requirement for the entry of any new aircraft type.

There is nothing that requires QF to use the B1 B2 licences, they can continue with the CAR31 system until the regulatory reform process delivers the new CASA Pt66, even then there is usually a 2 to 5 year transition process for the previous regulation.

It should be noted that the B1 licence certainly provides minor line station efficiencies due to the greater certification capability of the B1 over the CAR31 Airframe/Engine guy, and this is what QF will be looking to get a return upon.

However, there is no measurable benefit of the Pt66 system over the CAR31 system in a heavy maintenance environment where you already have a multitude of licence categories on duty and available for the certification activities.

B2 provides less certification coverage than the current EIR guy so that is a no-brainer.

MP.

QF22

I had a quick look on the CASA website and yes it does clearly say CAO 100.66 is an option to CAR 31.
I can't actually find a reference that says new types have to be introduced under new system, but somewhere in the back of my mind I recall it to be so. (although the old mind ain't as good as it used to be.)
If it is not mandatory why then would QF,VB, and JH be training their guys to comply with the new system if they didn't have to ? ? ?
I am sure some learned Ppruner will have the answer.
Cheers