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Old 15th Sep 2007, 08:53
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it was a 400 not 800
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Old 15th Sep 2007, 11:39
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Virgin Blue no longer operates classics.
Ipso facto it must be a Qantas...

Come to think of it aren't all 734s now operated trans Tasman for Jetconnect ?
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Regardless of type, Knowing how much fuel you have and where it is, is kind of important. someone's going to have some explaining to do
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Old 15th Sep 2007, 12:40
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hits the TOGA button while pushing back engines running

Unlikely, its hard enough to find the TOGA buttons when you actually need them
Unlikely? Not when you happen to know that a pilot inadvertently pressed one of the "hard to find" TOGA buttons while taxiing at Sydney a few months ago. Fortunately the slow wind-up of the thrust was immediately noticed before it got dangerous and the disconnect button in the thrust levers hurriedly actuated. Have seen it happen in the simulator once or twice.
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it was a 400 not 800
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THAT explains a lot. So it really WAS very close to a hole in the ground - or water. Just WHERE did the driver do the conversion training?
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Old 16th Sep 2007, 00:43
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Ipso facto
Never seen that username on Pprune before...
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Old 16th Sep 2007, 08:35
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Come to think of it aren't all 734s now operated trans Tasman for Jetconnect ?
Nope, don't think so. Some yes, but not all.
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Old 16th Sep 2007, 10:57
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Dont want to get into a peeing comp here ( not too mention thread creep ) A37575, But I have no idea what the skippers fingers would be doing near the TOGA buttons during start ( ummm, should be on the cutoff lever ) or taxi, I generally have my hand on on top of T/Ls during taxi, the TOGA buttons are'nt exactly " in the way " , any other NG skippers wanna chime in here? Having said that, anything is possible.

On the topic, as blueloo said, in the NG, a bit hard to not notice the fuel config warning with 3 ton in the centre and next to nothing in the mains.
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Old 17th Sep 2007, 10:24
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Sounds to me like Qantas pilots are becoming more preoccupied with their futures ,thanks to that megalomaniac leader of theirs, than flying aeroplanes.
This 737 driver wasn't the same chappy who stuffed up an RTO in Cairns a while back per chance?

Worlds safest airline ,what a crock!
Thanks to massive cost cutting sounds like Qantas' glory days are over.
What exactly is Geoff's legacy going to be?
A smoking hole ?
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Old 17th Sep 2007, 10:36
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Couldn't have happened! QF crew are the best and most well trained pilots in the whole world...what are you guys insinuating? They are the whole wide world's safest airline and who are you cretins making such unfounded, malicious accusations ?
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Old 17th Sep 2007, 12:25
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Haha!! I see.. LOL!
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 11:55
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This 737 driver wasn't the same chappy who stuffed up an RTO in Cairns a while back per chance?

Maybe, but the same chap that departed Cairns on an RNP departure up the valley in HDG select! Oooops.
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 13:00
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Maybe, but the same chap that departed Cairns on an RNP departure up the valley in HDG select! Oooops.
That would be 2 chaps wouldn't it?
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 13:04
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Keep to the topic and off the character assasination...or else.
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 13:12
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Why don't you all wait for the ATSB report to come out?
I heard 73 classic. Fuel in centre not in wings on landing, Inadvertantly didnt select centre pumps pre takeoff, landed, asked ground staff to assist transfer from centre back to wings (not refuellers), learnt valuable lesson, said no more. Some one (flight crew) from MEL Heard story went for browny points, dobbed pilot in for not reporting. Plane not in danger due crew recognising where fuel was and used appropriate means to supply engines.
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 21:23
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Unfort they were dobbed themselves in via QAR I believe

It's not the incident that will get them in trouble it's the cover up

All are in the **** too, both pilots and the engineer
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 22:12
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Plane not in danger due crew recognising where fuel was and used appropriate means to supply engines.
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Just WHEN did the crew recognise where the fuel was?
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 01:08
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Plane not in danger due crew recognising where fuel was and used appropriate means to supply engines.
Uhhh, I think Mr.Boeing had his reasons when he said " if more than 470kg in the centre tank, the main tanks must be full ".......................or was he just being difficult.
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 02:29
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In that case they must have got a fuel CONFIG alert with both the center pumps off and more than 726 kgs in the center tank, AND a LOW fuel alert at 907 kgs in each of the wing tanks...NG style!
Cheers...FD
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 02:57
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Doesn't the classic have a min fuel requirement in the wing tanks for hydraulic cooling?
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