Lowest minimums ever for twin FO job?
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Lowest minimums ever for twin FO job?
Just checked the AFAP website for jobs and came across this one;
FIRST OFFICERS - BEECH 1900
Minimum CPL(A)
Current Instrument Rating
Minimum 500 hrs total flight time
ATPL, ATPL subjects and night flying experience an advantage.
WTF?? No minimum twin time for an FO for this gig? Mate, are these the lowest minimums ever in Oz for twin RPT/CHTR operator? Every *man and his MECIR will be applying!
* for political correctness, please substitute 'woman' in place of 'man' when required
FIRST OFFICERS - BEECH 1900
Minimum CPL(A)
Current Instrument Rating
Minimum 500 hrs total flight time
ATPL, ATPL subjects and night flying experience an advantage.
WTF?? No minimum twin time for an FO for this gig? Mate, are these the lowest minimums ever in Oz for twin RPT/CHTR operator? Every *man and his MECIR will be applying!
* for political correctness, please substitute 'woman' in place of 'man' when required
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Those are the exact same minimums to fly Netjet's B1900s in Europe, no multi time except MECIR.
I believe Vincent have just recruited a few more drivers due to start in the next couple of weeks as well....
LP
I believe Vincent have just recruited a few more drivers due to start in the next couple of weeks as well....
LP
Times certainly are changing...
I remember having to have nearly 2000 hrs total before getting my first regular Baron ride!
I guess with an ad like that they possibly acknowledge that hunting for solid junior pilots with the right attitude is perhaps the way forward, rather than be simply concerned with a swag of hours in the logbook. Let's face it - many of the operators advertising on that same website are going to struggle to get people with the experience requirements they demand for some of the types they operate...
The challenge for Vincent will be to make sure that the training and development of the junior pilot in their multi-engine turboprop is thorough - but at least it is quite innovative and there is an opportunity for a possible development path for pilots...
It may lead to some consistency for them and probably beats the hell out of employing someone who has 2500 hrs total time with 500 hrs multi, then funding their turboprop endorsement only to see them sail out the door to a major airline six months later, which probably has been that company's commercial reality during the past couple of years.
I remember having to have nearly 2000 hrs total before getting my first regular Baron ride!
I guess with an ad like that they possibly acknowledge that hunting for solid junior pilots with the right attitude is perhaps the way forward, rather than be simply concerned with a swag of hours in the logbook. Let's face it - many of the operators advertising on that same website are going to struggle to get people with the experience requirements they demand for some of the types they operate...
The challenge for Vincent will be to make sure that the training and development of the junior pilot in their multi-engine turboprop is thorough - but at least it is quite innovative and there is an opportunity for a possible development path for pilots...
It may lead to some consistency for them and probably beats the hell out of employing someone who has 2500 hrs total time with 500 hrs multi, then funding their turboprop endorsement only to see them sail out the door to a major airline six months later, which probably has been that company's commercial reality during the past couple of years.
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Vincents is a good gig. Sure, you will be bonded but in return you will get a very thorough training and good exposure to pleanty of good flying; even some international work now and then. Reasonably good gear, too. Pay is on par with other similar operators, ie not fantastic, but you can live on it. Vincent pilots seem to be held in high regard with other companies when it comes time to move on; recently they have lost quite a few pilots to the likes of Cathay, PB and several other jet operators.
If I was in the position where I had only the minimums that they stipulate in their ad then I would go for it. I'm not trying to sell the job; just my two cents worth.
If I was in the position where I had only the minimums that they stipulate in their ad then I would go for it. I'm not trying to sell the job; just my two cents worth.
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Can someone please give me the website link?
I tried www.afap.co.nz... to no avail, and I'm afraid I have no idea... LOL!
KC
I tried www.afap.co.nz... to no avail, and I'm afraid I have no idea... LOL!
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www.afap.org.au or aussie federation of pilots go to what's new section -afap latest job ads in australia and around the pacific located on the right hand side of the webpage - cheers.
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It's the one located on the west island 
http://www.afap.org.au/html/s02_arti..._id=73&dsb=641
... and this is their homepage.
http://www.afap.org.au/html/s02_arti..._id=73&dsb=641
... and this is their homepage.
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Try this they have had 8 guys go to Cathay in the past 24 months, thats 8 Captains....pretty big turn over considering it's 1 capt per 3 months when they don't have that many to start with!!!!
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Those who want an Aussie B1900 FO job and have minimal hours have a chat to Airlink in Dubbo before they start parking planes due to lack of crew.
Don't necessarily believe what the minimums say.
Don't necessarily believe what the minimums say.
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Pretty damn good I would expect. Twin operators no longer have the luxury of hiring new starts with buckets of multi engine time, because most have moved on.
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Dream job.
Command time is all well and good, but if you want to end up in a multi-crew airline job, then that is where you should jump. Go for the F/O job and get some experience in that position, proper multi-crew training etc. Stay there, then when you know what the hell is going on around you, get a command, then an airline job.
Command time is all well and good, but if you want to end up in a multi-crew airline job, then that is where you should jump. Go for the F/O job and get some experience in that position, proper multi-crew training etc. Stay there, then when you know what the hell is going on around you, get a command, then an airline job.