Friday 24th
"What % of pilots could become medicos - clearly less than 1% - it is just that little requirement - called finishing in the top 1% of your state to gain a spot at med school"
That is no longer true in Oz. Most medical school places in Oz are now graduate entry, and even for those that direct entry from highschool - top 20% will give you a good shot.
You will just have to take my word for it - I am in a position to know what I am talking about!
Dr
(non-medico)
That is no longer true in Oz. Most medical school places in Oz are now graduate entry, and even for those that direct entry from highschool - top 20% will give you a good shot.
You will just have to take my word for it - I am in a position to know what I am talking about!
Dr
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Memorial Day
Gentlemen, and the odd lady.
Regrets - I've had a few.
But standing with the 78% isn't one of them.
Courage and decency - now that's a legacy worth striving for - and the 78% have it.
Well done!
24th August - every year - Memorial Day
Regrets - I've had a few.
But standing with the 78% isn't one of them.
Courage and decency - now that's a legacy worth striving for - and the 78% have it.
Well done!
24th August - every year - Memorial Day
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Hey Tortellini,
Sounds like you wish you got into medical school but didn't cut the mouse-turd at high school.
So you tried to become a Quantas pilot but didn't have passes in physics and mathematics. Maybe even English.
Have you tried the manly art of hostying?
This whole "pilot vs professional" thing is nothing new. It comes up on pprune every year or two during a slow week. Please try harder to wind up the incumbents.
yawn....................
Sounds like you wish you got into medical school but didn't cut the mouse-turd at high school.
So you tried to become a Quantas pilot but didn't have passes in physics and mathematics. Maybe even English.
Have you tried the manly art of hostying?
This whole "pilot vs professional" thing is nothing new. It comes up on pprune every year or two during a slow week. Please try harder to wind up the incumbents.
yawn....................
What I remember most of my instructing days, DENTIST and DOCTORS where the MOST unsuitable student pilots. Probably very intelligent, BUT very uncoordinated. A doctor can HIDE his mistakes, a pilot CAN NOT.
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So you tried to become a Quantas pilot but didn't have passes in physics and mathematics. Maybe even English.
short flights long nights
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Am up early this particular 24th and this hotel has the National Geographic channel. So one more time I am getting to see the Sioux City story.
If you don't know what the Sioux City story is.....stop what you're doing and get onto Google.
Truth is, that happened at about the same time as the dispute and has far more defined my life than anything Hawke ever did. Everyone of us has been touched by that wonderful piece of airmanship, almost unmatched ever. My life has been one of "I hope I could be that good" ever since. Professional airmanship of that order is the goal we all should have. Squabbling and angst help little.
Happy 24th, may there be many more safe anniversaries.
If you don't know what the Sioux City story is.....stop what you're doing and get onto Google.
Truth is, that happened at about the same time as the dispute and has far more defined my life than anything Hawke ever did. Everyone of us has been touched by that wonderful piece of airmanship, almost unmatched ever. My life has been one of "I hope I could be that good" ever since. Professional airmanship of that order is the goal we all should have. Squabbling and angst help little.
Happy 24th, may there be many more safe anniversaries.
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18 years ago, i came back from a school camp to find my family sitting around the table looking very sombre. i was just about to find out that my little world was going to get shaken...A lot!
Some of my of the frineds that i grew up with ended up in Saudi, Malaysia, Dubai, or more sadly, on the other end of fights in the shool yards defending our fathers over things we really didn't understand.
While there is an enormous amount of vitirole spewed forth on these forums - and i have been reading and contributing to them for many years, althoug this is my first in a long while - it is most distrubing to note the number of comments that run something along the lines of "... it was 18 years ago, get over it..."
I can't "get over it" as it was a defining even in my and my families life that changed my perspective on many things, not least of which was my desire to fly commercially. For right or wrong, many families broke up, many friends never spoke again, and many lives were changed permanently.
there have been some great things come out of the dispute though. Many pilots got opportunities to fly in parts of the world and on aircraft they never imagained they would, many families were able to travel more than they could have hoped, and many young Australian pilots got chances to fly in Australia early than might other wise have been possible.
The '89 dispute changed many lives for good and bad, and deserves to be noted for what it is, a significant event in the history of Austrlalian Aviation and industrial relations that should not be repeated again.
I will conclude by noting this. i now work with communities that have some of the highest rates of communicable dieseases anywaywhere in the world. Communities, that on the World Health Organisation health indices rank in the bottom 15 populations in the world. Communities that have some of the lowest literacy, numeracy skills in the developed world.
And these communites are here in Australia, in the heart of this great land. If there another diatribe about how hardlife is for australian pilots i think i will be phyiscally ill. The incomes and education that many of you have (i am talking pre AND post disupte pilots here) are privileges not shared by many in the developed world, and even fewer in the developing world.
Cheers
Jim
Some of my of the frineds that i grew up with ended up in Saudi, Malaysia, Dubai, or more sadly, on the other end of fights in the shool yards defending our fathers over things we really didn't understand.
While there is an enormous amount of vitirole spewed forth on these forums - and i have been reading and contributing to them for many years, althoug this is my first in a long while - it is most distrubing to note the number of comments that run something along the lines of "... it was 18 years ago, get over it..."
I can't "get over it" as it was a defining even in my and my families life that changed my perspective on many things, not least of which was my desire to fly commercially. For right or wrong, many families broke up, many friends never spoke again, and many lives were changed permanently.
there have been some great things come out of the dispute though. Many pilots got opportunities to fly in parts of the world and on aircraft they never imagained they would, many families were able to travel more than they could have hoped, and many young Australian pilots got chances to fly in Australia early than might other wise have been possible.
The '89 dispute changed many lives for good and bad, and deserves to be noted for what it is, a significant event in the history of Austrlalian Aviation and industrial relations that should not be repeated again.
I will conclude by noting this. i now work with communities that have some of the highest rates of communicable dieseases anywaywhere in the world. Communities, that on the World Health Organisation health indices rank in the bottom 15 populations in the world. Communities that have some of the lowest literacy, numeracy skills in the developed world.
And these communites are here in Australia, in the heart of this great land. If there another diatribe about how hardlife is for australian pilots i think i will be phyiscally ill. The incomes and education that many of you have (i am talking pre AND post disupte pilots here) are privileges not shared by many in the developed world, and even fewer in the developing world.
Cheers
Jim
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"Am up early this particular 24th and this hotel has the National Geographic channel. So one more time I am getting to see the Sioux City story.
If you don't know what the Sioux City story is.....stop what you're doing and get onto Google.
Truth is, that happened at about the same time as the dispute and has far more defined my life than anything Hawke ever did. Everyone of us has been touched by that wonderful piece of airmanship, almost unmatched ever. My life has been one of "I hope I could be that good" ever since. Professional airmanship of that order is the goal we all should have. Squabbling and angst help little.
Happy 24th, may there be many more safe anniversaries. "
Well said short man.
"Am up early this particular 24th and this hotel has the National Geographic channel. So one more time I am getting to see the Sioux City story.
If you don't know what the Sioux City story is.....stop what you're doing and get onto Google.
Truth is, that happened at about the same time as the dispute and has far more defined my life than anything Hawke ever did. Everyone of us has been touched by that wonderful piece of airmanship, almost unmatched ever. My life has been one of "I hope I could be that good" ever since. Professional airmanship of that order is the goal we all should have. Squabbling and angst help little.
Happy 24th, may there be many more safe anniversaries. "
Well said short man.
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Well said Jimmy Thudpucker
Our Federal govt is just finding out about what you describe. At first they were going to spend "tens of millions" to fix it. Soon it was "500 millions over five years". Now it's "500 million this year"
They are learning about what an army of professionals in the outback have been trying to fix with meagre resources for decades.
And light aircraft are essential to help do it.
They are learning about what an army of professionals in the outback have been trying to fix with meagre resources for decades.
And light aircraft are essential to help do it.
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I for one have no regrets of 89 and being part of the 78%. In the ensueing 18 years since I left Aust Ive made more loot than Id ever hope to make, sh@gged more exotic chicks than I thought posible, and dont have to put up with any tax, ASIC, or Smiths Dick nonsence.
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A very interesting and appropriate thread, that will no doubt be replicated in two years time, and so it should be.
Some good posts by the likes of Sherm, who started the thing, followed by Greybeard, Tailwheel, Gaunty, Spaz Modic [wot sort of moniker is that?]
and Jimmy Thurd...
and then we get the Turd, Rossilinni... Strewth, wot a Donkey! Say no more!
Followed by, unfortunately...SLASHER...
who proceeds to tell us how he's made heaps of loot, shagged heaps of tarts, and thinks the devastation of 89' is the greatest thing since sliced bread!
Get with it, Mate. This is not about you, and money, and shagging tarts, it's about people.
Some years ago you asked us to vote on whether you should be part of this forum, we said no, and you shoved off!
So, why don't you just shove off again?
Some good posts by the likes of Sherm, who started the thing, followed by Greybeard, Tailwheel, Gaunty, Spaz Modic [wot sort of moniker is that?]
and Jimmy Thurd...
and then we get the Turd, Rossilinni... Strewth, wot a Donkey! Say no more!
Followed by, unfortunately...SLASHER...
who proceeds to tell us how he's made heaps of loot, shagged heaps of tarts, and thinks the devastation of 89' is the greatest thing since sliced bread!
Get with it, Mate. This is not about you, and money, and shagging tarts, it's about people.
Some years ago you asked us to vote on whether you should be part of this forum, we said no, and you shoved off!
So, why don't you just shove off again?
AUGUST 24
You could say age shall not weary, nor the years contemn.
You could say Billy Hobday, et al, in memoriam, till the going down of the sun.
But if you cannot say we shall remember them . . . . say nothing.
(Who asks does err. Who answers errs.)
Jimmy Thudpucker
You are exactly right, not to get over it. It has been a hard lesson, and those who call for us to get over it will surely fall when they are put to the test. Learn from history in order not to repeat it.
As you eloquently put the case against our disgraceful treatment of our indigenous cousins, and as you bring light and heat to their lives, we all need to assess the priorities in our lives. The reality is that hard as the dipute was, it pales into insignificance when compared to the battle that some in our community have to endure.
Sui Genaris
You are exactly right, not to get over it. It has been a hard lesson, and those who call for us to get over it will surely fall when they are put to the test. Learn from history in order not to repeat it.
As you eloquently put the case against our disgraceful treatment of our indigenous cousins, and as you bring light and heat to their lives, we all need to assess the priorities in our lives. The reality is that hard as the dipute was, it pales into insignificance when compared to the battle that some in our community have to endure.
Sui Genaris