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Rishworth B777 F/O
Are these guys for real....
Rishworth Aviation is delighted to announce a unique opportunity for pilots to obtain a B777 type rating and build time on type thereafter.
Rishworth Aviation will arrange a B777 type rating course for selected candidates at pilots' own cost. Commuting contracts as B777 First Officers will be offered prior to commencement of the type rating course. Monthly payments will be circa US$6,000 (gross).
Candidates need to have at least 2,000 hours total time and 500 hours on multi-engine turbo-prop or jet aircraft with at least 1 year airline experience. Preference will be given to pilots with jet experience.
While you may not be at the stage in your career where you are interested in this opportunity yourself, if you know of pilots looking to move up to the B777 as First Officers, we would be grateful if you would please make them aware of this opportunity.
Interested candidates should register online/update their online registration details at www.rishworthaviation.com , and forward CV, completed application form, license, passport, medical and last 2 logbook pages to XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com
Applications close on 26th August 2007. Shortlists will be made thereafter at which time full contract details will be provided. Type rating courses are expected to commence in Oct/Nov/Dec and take 4-6 weeks. Upon successful completion of the type rating courses, assignments will commence.
We think that this is an excellent opportunity for pilots to progress their careers to the next level and expect that there will be significant interest. Accordingly we have in the first instance, exclusively offered this opportunity to pilots registered on our database. We expect that we will be in a position to continue to offer similar opportunities in the future and look forward to hearing from interested pilots.
Kind regards
XXXXXXXXXX
These guys are renowned for paying the least. If your interested and really have no other option but to deal with them be carefull as they are tight.rses.
Rishworth Aviation is delighted to announce a unique opportunity for pilots to obtain a B777 type rating and build time on type thereafter.
Rishworth Aviation will arrange a B777 type rating course for selected candidates at pilots' own cost. Commuting contracts as B777 First Officers will be offered prior to commencement of the type rating course. Monthly payments will be circa US$6,000 (gross).
Candidates need to have at least 2,000 hours total time and 500 hours on multi-engine turbo-prop or jet aircraft with at least 1 year airline experience. Preference will be given to pilots with jet experience.
While you may not be at the stage in your career where you are interested in this opportunity yourself, if you know of pilots looking to move up to the B777 as First Officers, we would be grateful if you would please make them aware of this opportunity.
Interested candidates should register online/update their online registration details at www.rishworthaviation.com , and forward CV, completed application form, license, passport, medical and last 2 logbook pages to XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com
Applications close on 26th August 2007. Shortlists will be made thereafter at which time full contract details will be provided. Type rating courses are expected to commence in Oct/Nov/Dec and take 4-6 weeks. Upon successful completion of the type rating courses, assignments will commence.
We think that this is an excellent opportunity for pilots to progress their careers to the next level and expect that there will be significant interest. Accordingly we have in the first instance, exclusively offered this opportunity to pilots registered on our database. We expect that we will be in a position to continue to offer similar opportunities in the future and look forward to hearing from interested pilots.
Kind regards
XXXXXXXXXX
These guys are renowned for paying the least. If your interested and really have no other option but to deal with them be carefull as they are tight.rses.
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I got the same email except it was from Toni Morelli. I think the $6k was a misprint. I sent an email to Toni to clarify the pay. I haven't received a reply.
It can be tough to make decisions these days with all the choices out there. $40k for the 777 type, (probably at Air NZ) and $6k/ month in Seoul. Or no up front cost for a Hawker type and US$9k / month in the Dubai.
Brin.
I got the same email except it was from Toni Morelli. I think the $6k was a misprint. I sent an email to Toni to clarify the pay. I haven't received a reply.
It can be tough to make decisions these days with all the choices out there. $40k for the 777 type, (probably at Air NZ) and $6k/ month in Seoul. Or no up front cost for a Hawker type and US$9k / month in the Dubai.
Brin.
I don't know Brin?
I hear the sandpit is not all it's cracked up to be, but on that comparison I would imageine the choice would be easy.
I appologise in advance if your remarks were tounge in cheek.
Methinks Rishworth may have to pitch a tad higher.
I hear the sandpit is not all it's cracked up to be, but on that comparison I would imageine the choice would be easy.
I appologise in advance if your remarks were tounge in cheek.
Methinks Rishworth may have to pitch a tad higher.
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Hi Krusty...
There was a bit of tongue in cheek however I think there is nothing wrong with Rishworths pitch. Obviously they are pitching for monkeys.
The typo may come to light when even the monkeys fail to show let alone any primates at all. Perhaps we should, "watch this space" as the $6k/pay for rating typo may soon be "fixed."
Brin.
There was a bit of tongue in cheek however I think there is nothing wrong with Rishworths pitch. Obviously they are pitching for monkeys.
The typo may come to light when even the monkeys fail to show let alone any primates at all. Perhaps we should, "watch this space" as the $6k/pay for rating typo may soon be "fixed."
Brin.
Could this be for RBA ?
Their 772 is due to enter service as soon as they find another engine to put on the wing.
Rishworth Aviation have had a history of supplying pilots to RBA for the 757/767.
Their 772 is due to enter service as soon as they find another engine to put on the wing.
Rishworth Aviation have had a history of supplying pilots to RBA for the 757/767.
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You'd have to be extremely hard up to work for Rishworth. Ran into a bloke the other day who had just started as an F/O with DJ; he had been a 737 Capt with Pac. Blue and he'd taken a pay RISE by making the move!!!
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I don't have much time for any or the contractors, PARC, Rishworth, EPA, etc etc, they are all out to make a buck out of the pilots they hire and they are all as bad as each other. However, for any young bloke wanting a good start, then what's wrong with sacrificing 6 months salary to end up with a 777 endo. and 500 hours on type on international routes, job guaranteed, nothing wrong with that. Geez, wish I had that chance when I had 2000 hours, I'd have jumped at it.
Besides, the 777 is a fantastic airplane to fly and if anyone gets the chance , GO FOR IT, and all the best to ya :0)))
Besides, the 777 is a fantastic airplane to fly and if anyone gets the chance , GO FOR IT, and all the best to ya :0)))
Be VERY carefull with Rishworth, you may end up doing the endorsement and having them turn around and say "sorry no job" at the end. It has happened before. Don't mortgage your house.
A B777 endorsement with no time on type or other jet time won't get you a job else where, A B737 or A320 endorsement might.
Doubtless they will get a "commission" on your training costs.
Possibly Brunei as Rishworth have a long standing relationship with them, Korean Air and Vietnam Airlines have higher minimums. But these days who knows India, China ???
Only deal with Rishworth if;
1. Your are not paying out any money.
2. You really want the job and cannot go through any other agency.
3. Job is with a reputable airline in a country with decent employment laws.
Warn them about this agency more like 
A B777 endorsement with no time on type or other jet time won't get you a job else where, A B737 or A320 endorsement might.
Doubtless they will get a "commission" on your training costs.
Possibly Brunei as Rishworth have a long standing relationship with them, Korean Air and Vietnam Airlines have higher minimums. But these days who knows India, China ???
Only deal with Rishworth if;
1. Your are not paying out any money.
2. You really want the job and cannot go through any other agency.
3. Job is with a reputable airline in a country with decent employment laws.
While you may not be at the stage in your career where you are interested in this opportunity yourself, if you know of pilots looking to move up to the B777 as First Officers, we would be grateful if you would please make them aware of this opportunity.
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We'll all be 'rooned...
I have known a few guys gone down the Rishworth track into RBA. Of course they take a hit of your pay while on contract. Welcome to the world of supply and demand. Once off contract things are different.
The guys with RBA that I know of have gone from regional (mainly metro, SAAB or B1900) to SFO with RBA to Capt within 2 - 4 years. Housing, etc all paid for and "almost" living off the allowances. I know SOs with QF who have been an SO for 5 years, and CX SOs for 4 years (max with CX though).
For this gig it seems the money for the Rishworth deal is about the same as an FO with DJ BUT housing is covered, and away from home allowances are are MUCH better. (No $200+ a week to rent in Syd as that is where the newer DJ guys are being based). The B777 endo is not $40k. More like between $30k - $35k (Aust), depending on where you do it. Therefore not much difference between that and a B737 NG if doing it o/s.
Direct entry FO on B777 flying long haul, international v FO with DJ (or JQ on even less $$$!) flying domestic. It's a personal choice up to the individual. Every person entering any job should be aware of the realities, not the hype or spin.
I know of the ONE person who did the B767 endo when asked to by Rishworth and failed to get offered a position. Other factors came into it that I am aware of, and not the fault of the driver in question. A big stuff up, yes.
To me it sounds like a good enough offer under the circumstances. Fly a B777 (amazing aeroplane!) for a few years, see the world. Come back to Oz experienced and type rated. "Potentially' not a bad situation to be in.
For the record, I've never worked for RBA or Rishworth, just know a few who have / do. (Getting older - never said wiser).
The guys with RBA that I know of have gone from regional (mainly metro, SAAB or B1900) to SFO with RBA to Capt within 2 - 4 years. Housing, etc all paid for and "almost" living off the allowances. I know SOs with QF who have been an SO for 5 years, and CX SOs for 4 years (max with CX though).
For this gig it seems the money for the Rishworth deal is about the same as an FO with DJ BUT housing is covered, and away from home allowances are are MUCH better. (No $200+ a week to rent in Syd as that is where the newer DJ guys are being based). The B777 endo is not $40k. More like between $30k - $35k (Aust), depending on where you do it. Therefore not much difference between that and a B737 NG if doing it o/s.
Direct entry FO on B777 flying long haul, international v FO with DJ (or JQ on even less $$$!) flying domestic. It's a personal choice up to the individual. Every person entering any job should be aware of the realities, not the hype or spin.
I know of the ONE person who did the B767 endo when asked to by Rishworth and failed to get offered a position. Other factors came into it that I am aware of, and not the fault of the driver in question. A big stuff up, yes.
To me it sounds like a good enough offer under the circumstances. Fly a B777 (amazing aeroplane!) for a few years, see the world. Come back to Oz experienced and type rated. "Potentially' not a bad situation to be in.
For the record, I've never worked for RBA or Rishworth, just know a few who have / do. (Getting older - never said wiser).
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There is A LOT of comotion at RBA at present. Just go to the SE Asia forum. Not all is as it seems, and definately not all the fault of Rishworth, but a lot due RBA management. I have "heard" of pilots told to get ready for the 767 position at RBA recently but management at RBA have have played Rishworth around with whom they have taken. One blames the other, and so on..... Who knows, who cares. Just deal with the result.
I understand, and if anyome knows better then please correct me, that an RBA SFO on Rishworth contract takes home about $1400 AUS a week salary. Housing paid for. Also approx $400-$450 a week allowances when away. Off contract SFO getting $2k per week + same allowances, and more housing allowance $$. Bear in mind no tax in "The Abode of Peace".
If you're flying for $$ then you're doing it for the wrong reasons. Sure it needs to be a big concideration, but look long term.
Find me any job without pilots complaining about management and the roster, the salary, etc or management doing the same in reverse. Like I said, just know what you're getting yourself in for, what your aim is and plans are long term.
I understand, and if anyome knows better then please correct me, that an RBA SFO on Rishworth contract takes home about $1400 AUS a week salary. Housing paid for. Also approx $400-$450 a week allowances when away. Off contract SFO getting $2k per week + same allowances, and more housing allowance $$. Bear in mind no tax in "The Abode of Peace".
If you're flying for $$ then you're doing it for the wrong reasons. Sure it needs to be a big concideration, but look long term.
Find me any job without pilots complaining about management and the roster, the salary, etc or management doing the same in reverse. Like I said, just know what you're getting yourself in for, what your aim is and plans are long term.
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Must say I find it amusing that only people on the database are presently being offered this deal to shell out $$$$$$ - mere plebs not on the database will have to wait their turn (which may/may not arrive!)
Must make you warm and fuzzy to "belong" to such an elite group.
On a more serious note regarding contractors and/or their clients (and sorry to disappoint anyone thinking otherwise but that is NOT the pilot!) interesting items on other posts eg. looks like Rishworth (and others) getting tied up in tax problems in India, KAL possibly not providing all the days off consecutive as implied (but not written) in the contract, airline in Japan trying to amend pay/travel in the contract for their benefit etc.
In todays market make sure you read and fully understand the implications and intent of the contract, if not happy either have them amended or walk away.
If not happy yet still sign then can't really bitch too much when/if things start falling apart.
Beware of false prophets - but also beware of real opportunities missed.
Tough call sometimes.
Must make you warm and fuzzy to "belong" to such an elite group.
On a more serious note regarding contractors and/or their clients (and sorry to disappoint anyone thinking otherwise but that is NOT the pilot!) interesting items on other posts eg. looks like Rishworth (and others) getting tied up in tax problems in India, KAL possibly not providing all the days off consecutive as implied (but not written) in the contract, airline in Japan trying to amend pay/travel in the contract for their benefit etc.
In todays market make sure you read and fully understand the implications and intent of the contract, if not happy either have them amended or walk away.
If not happy yet still sign then can't really bitch too much when/if things start falling apart.
Beware of false prophets - but also beware of real opportunities missed.
Tough call sometimes.
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Galdian,
Just like those warm and fuzzy people who register thie details with QF, DJ, JQ, CX, and so on? How rude of those companies to only offer interviews and jobs to those who "belong" to their databases.
Are you serious?
Those "mere plebs" ought to register if they want to be considered. I didn't win lotto last week either. That's damn unfair just because I didn't bother to buy a ticket! Who can I sue?
Just like those warm and fuzzy people who register thie details with QF, DJ, JQ, CX, and so on? How rude of those companies to only offer interviews and jobs to those who "belong" to their databases.
Are you serious?
Those "mere plebs" ought to register if they want to be considered. I didn't win lotto last week either. That's damn unfair just because I didn't bother to buy a ticket! Who can I sue?