More a/c for QF?
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http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...1_FORTUNE5.htm
Link quotes GD saying new A/C order in next two months. Interesting.
Link quotes GD saying new A/C order in next two months. Interesting.
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I think Qantas 787 is on the money here. QF have said they will firm up on the 20 787 options in the next couple of months as well as convert 20 purchase rights to options making it 65 firm/20 options/30 purchase rights.
The deadline issued by QF to Boeing re 787-10 is early 2008. Dixon has been quoted as saying this. Additionally, it has also been reported that Airbus wants QF to make a decision on the A350-1000 by early next year. There won't be any 787-10/A350-1000 order in the next couple of months or this year. I wouldn't be totally surprised if QF converted some of the 20 787 options to firm orders, however.
Dixon was clear in his rejection of the 748I/777 at 787 rollout. It won't happen.
More 32Xs for JQ is a given and much has been reported lately that this could be a large order(30-50 units?).
QF still have to replace their 734 fleet, so a follow-on 738 and/or 739ER order is also likely IMO.
No more A380s is what I have heard. More 330s wouldn't surprise.
No idea on the freighter front.
The deadline issued by QF to Boeing re 787-10 is early 2008. Dixon has been quoted as saying this. Additionally, it has also been reported that Airbus wants QF to make a decision on the A350-1000 by early next year. There won't be any 787-10/A350-1000 order in the next couple of months or this year. I wouldn't be totally surprised if QF converted some of the 20 787 options to firm orders, however.
Dixon was clear in his rejection of the 748I/777 at 787 rollout. It won't happen.
More 32Xs for JQ is a given and much has been reported lately that this could be a large order(30-50 units?).
QF still have to replace their 734 fleet, so a follow-on 738 and/or 739ER order is also likely IMO.
No more A380s is what I have heard. More 330s wouldn't surprise.
No idea on the freighter front.
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Thanks longreach. The insider word is the 777 and 748 have been ruled out and a decision on the 787-10 won't be made for at least a year. If they were ordering the 777 or 748 it would have been made at 1- years ago. There are no further A380's.
They are replacing the 734's with 738's. 739 is a consideration but adding a new variant is not desirable. JQ will be getting more A320's to take on Tiger and further expand.
They are replacing the 734's with 738's. 739 is a consideration but adding a new variant is not desirable. JQ will be getting more A320's to take on Tiger and further expand.
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JQ will be getting more A320's to take on Tiger and further expand.
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Does it really matter?
Tiger will cherry pick where it wants to send its A320s and the only effective way of competing for QF will be to place Jetstar head-to-head with Tiger. Fight fire with fire. We could however shut JQ down, and have QF mainline fight it out with Tiger ... am sure that would end well
Or we could go one better. Go back to the great AN/QF days, double the fares, put all the old restrictions back in and halve the number of people flying.
LCCs have been a huge success in Europe and the States and it was only a matter of time before the Australian market was tested. Some people are just still having difficulty getting used to it! Do people seriously think that someone else wouldn't have caught on to creating a Jetstar if QF hadn't?
Also does somebody want to do a count of how many threads have decended into another JQ bashing forum with the usual suspects?
Back to the topic ...
Tiger will cherry pick where it wants to send its A320s and the only effective way of competing for QF will be to place Jetstar head-to-head with Tiger. Fight fire with fire. We could however shut JQ down, and have QF mainline fight it out with Tiger ... am sure that would end well
Or we could go one better. Go back to the great AN/QF days, double the fares, put all the old restrictions back in and halve the number of people flying.
LCCs have been a huge success in Europe and the States and it was only a matter of time before the Australian market was tested. Some people are just still having difficulty getting used to it! Do people seriously think that someone else wouldn't have caught on to creating a Jetstar if QF hadn't?
Also does somebody want to do a count of how many threads have decended into another JQ bashing forum with the usual suspects?
Back to the topic ...
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No more A380s is what I have heard.
Is that no more A380s - not ever? The order is up to 20 planes now, and some planes will be with Pacific route seating 450 passengers, and I expect flights to London will have a lot more seats than that.
London now has 28 flights per week, twice daily from MEL and twice daily from SYD. If every plane flies twice weekly between Oz and London, I think that would be 14 planes.
US West Coast will have daily from MEL, daily from BNE and SYD varies between twice daily and three times daily, plus services through AKL and services to SFO. Eventually, when the last 747-400ER is retired ( not for some years, I realise), is the intention to have a big gap between the A380s with Pacific seating, and the 787-10 with about 300 seats. 20 A380s seems barely enough planes to cover the flying that is done now, if the 747s are retired. Ports like SFO and FRA may not be candidates for A380s for some time, but 787-10s seem like small planes to fly to those cities.
Is that no more A380s - not ever? The order is up to 20 planes now, and some planes will be with Pacific route seating 450 passengers, and I expect flights to London will have a lot more seats than that.
London now has 28 flights per week, twice daily from MEL and twice daily from SYD. If every plane flies twice weekly between Oz and London, I think that would be 14 planes.
US West Coast will have daily from MEL, daily from BNE and SYD varies between twice daily and three times daily, plus services through AKL and services to SFO. Eventually, when the last 747-400ER is retired ( not for some years, I realise), is the intention to have a big gap between the A380s with Pacific seating, and the 787-10 with about 300 seats. 20 A380s seems barely enough planes to cover the flying that is done now, if the 747s are retired. Ports like SFO and FRA may not be candidates for A380s for some time, but 787-10s seem like small planes to fly to those cities.
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I heard the Qantas training manager DC was in the States recently purchasing a 777 sim.
Also heard United just recently decided not to continue with a 777 order due soon.
Could the two be coincidental?
With the number of 747-400's coming up for D checks and seeing as how Cox has stuffed that forward planning up ,Treblers might be the interim solution for this and capacity concerns until the 787-10's arrive.
Also heard United just recently decided not to continue with a 777 order due soon.
Could the two be coincidental?
With the number of 747-400's coming up for D checks and seeing as how Cox has stuffed that forward planning up ,Treblers might be the interim solution for this and capacity concerns until the 787-10's arrive.
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I heard the Qantas training manager DC was in the States recently purchasing a 777 sim.
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Now wasn't there another airline in Australia who have announced they are getting 777's??
Allegedly their newly minted EBA had slots for existing Captains on another type - and slots for F/O's??
ANZ have, and are getting, more 777's - maybe they need a few guys on AWA's (or whatever they have in NZ or wherever the AWA's would be legally lodged, allegedly Vanuatu is delightful this time of year!) to fill in gaps??
Maybe Ozjet are doing so well they are being forced to get bigger jets that have production dates later than 1880.
Whilst some might think airline aviation rotates around Qantas it does not actually
However it DOES revolve around the size of GD's remuneration (unfortunate for GD maybe but - hey - he still gets to take the remuneration home to play with!) 
Allegedly their newly minted EBA had slots for existing Captains on another type - and slots for F/O's??
ANZ have, and are getting, more 777's - maybe they need a few guys on AWA's (or whatever they have in NZ or wherever the AWA's would be legally lodged, allegedly Vanuatu is delightful this time of year!) to fill in gaps??
Maybe Ozjet are doing so well they are being forced to get bigger jets that have production dates later than 1880.
Whilst some might think airline aviation rotates around Qantas it does not actually
However it DOES revolve around the size of GD's remuneration (unfortunate for GD maybe but - hey - he still gets to take the remuneration home to play with!)
