Mega Merged: Qantas Long Haul Cabin Crew Eba8 Negotiations
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Surfside6's summation "The Rivalry..An Historical Context"
is an excellent summation of the evolution of the situation with cultures in the two main QF C/C divisions . The L/H culture developed for very valid reasons mainly to protect the members of the group and nurture it against those perceived as antagonistic , threatening or simply outside of that group and probably had its origins back in the flying boat days. It was a mechanism evolved for protection of the group in the variety of situations that arose over a lengthy 19 -26 day trip away in very difficult and very foreign far flung lands .This would have demanded a caring and inclusive culture and ethos where you looked after your mates and fellow cabin crew as the No 1 priority.
This culture remains today albeit watered down due to the dilution from those from other divisions and the attempts of QF management, for reasons known best to themselves , to destroy it.
A pity really because properly harnessed this culture ,commercially, was/is worth its weight in gold.The trouble is that past and current management since the merger of 1993 have been totally inept at recognising the postive side of it and have placed the old TAA culture up as the preferred model.
is an excellent summation of the evolution of the situation with cultures in the two main QF C/C divisions . The L/H culture developed for very valid reasons mainly to protect the members of the group and nurture it against those perceived as antagonistic , threatening or simply outside of that group and probably had its origins back in the flying boat days. It was a mechanism evolved for protection of the group in the variety of situations that arose over a lengthy 19 -26 day trip away in very difficult and very foreign far flung lands .This would have demanded a caring and inclusive culture and ethos where you looked after your mates and fellow cabin crew as the No 1 priority.
This culture remains today albeit watered down due to the dilution from those from other divisions and the attempts of QF management, for reasons known best to themselves , to destroy it.
A pity really because properly harnessed this culture ,commercially, was/is worth its weight in gold.The trouble is that past and current management since the merger of 1993 have been totally inept at recognising the postive side of it and have placed the old TAA culture up as the preferred model.
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EBA 8 Document
The document in its entirety is now available on the FAAA website.
Also the company will be mailiing a CD containing to the material to Crew members homes.
Its about 120 pages in length..quite read
Also the company will be mailiing a CD containing to the material to Crew members homes.
Its about 120 pages in length..quite read
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Long Haul Cabin Crew:
Think that they are better than everybody else. They are not.
Oh and I love this one by cartexchange
"it takes us years to re train the domestics when they come over!
Domestic Pursers = LH CSM..............different type, will never be equal in experience."
The arrogance just astounds! Put a long haul cabin crew on a 25min SYD-CBR with full bar and dinner. They wouldn't last 5 minutes. They panic when told it's 45 minutes flight time for a light refreshment on the Jumbo between Melbourne and Sydney!
What's in it for me, me, me!!
Think that they are better than everybody else. They are not.
Oh and I love this one by cartexchange
"it takes us years to re train the domestics when they come over!
Domestic Pursers = LH CSM..............different type, will never be equal in experience."
The arrogance just astounds! Put a long haul cabin crew on a 25min SYD-CBR with full bar and dinner. They wouldn't last 5 minutes. They panic when told it's 45 minutes flight time for a light refreshment on the Jumbo between Melbourne and Sydney!
What's in it for me, me, me!!
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Funbags ...Twaddle
We have been doing SYD/MEL for years...no one panics.
SYD/AKL/SYD when we ran the show...full bar...full meal and duty free...FLT usually less than 3 hours...full pax load on a jumbo
The only crew who panic on these sectors are ex domestic old boilers.
Funbags...I gather you are a Techie...how the hell do you know what goes on in the Cabin?...you never leave the flight deck except to get off the aircraft.
SYD/AKL/SYD when we ran the show...full bar...full meal and duty free...FLT usually less than 3 hours...full pax load on a jumbo
The only crew who panic on these sectors are ex domestic old boilers.
Funbags...I gather you are a Techie...how the hell do you know what goes on in the Cabin?...you never leave the flight deck except to get off the aircraft.
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Wow. Full bar and dinner and duty free on a 3hr flight between Syd and AKL. You guys really are legends! 
Try 25 minutes SYD-CBR! (Oh sorry, but without the duty free!)
We do occasionally pax, and see the long haul bunfight in the cabin.
Give me a shorthaul crew any day!
LHCC: What's in it for me, me, me, me!!!!!!!!
Try 25 minutes SYD-CBR! (Oh sorry, but without the duty free!)
We do occasionally pax, and see the long haul bunfight in the cabin.
Give me a shorthaul crew any day!
LHCC: What's in it for me, me, me, me!!!!!!!!
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Knock Back
Funbags ...sounds like you got a knock back from a LH Crew Member.
Just goes to show that we have excellent taste and high standards.
Rotate....you seem adept at that at least.
Just goes to show that we have excellent taste and high standards.
Rotate....you seem adept at that at least.
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"Funbags ...sounds like you got a knock back from a LH Crew Member.
Just goes to show that we have excellent taste and high standards.
Rotate....you seem adept at that at least."
Yeah right! LHCC are way out of my league anyway! You guys are way too good for us mere techies!
LHCC: What's in it for me, me, me, me!!!!!!!!
Just goes to show that we have excellent taste and high standards.
Rotate....you seem adept at that at least."
Yeah right! LHCC are way out of my league anyway! You guys are way too good for us mere techies!
LHCC: What's in it for me, me, me, me!!!!!!!!
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Sympathy...But Thread Drift
Don t worry ...someone will sleep with you eventually...when they have consumed enough alcohol.
Q.Why did God create alcohol?
A.So techies can have a sex life.
Anyway....... enough of this frivolity....back to serious issues...the EBA
Q.Why did God create alcohol?
A.So techies can have a sex life.
Anyway....... enough of this frivolity....back to serious issues...the EBA
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Hey surfy!
Q. What do LHCC use as contraception?
A. Their personality!
The LH EBA is not a serious issue anymore, as it will be voted up by a huge majority. Because remember the LHCC mantra: What's in it for me, me, me, me!!!!
Q. What do LHCC use as contraception?
A. Their personality!
The LH EBA is not a serious issue anymore, as it will be voted up by a huge majority. Because remember the LHCC mantra: What's in it for me, me, me, me!!!!
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sorry about the thread drift guys
ahh funbags. You're microsoft flight simulator, pizza box and handcream are calling mate. A big night in is called for as you have had your diatribe posted, woo farkin hoo!
Grow up sunshine and go back to the good life in front of big brother and keep dreamin of your next sim or cut price meal at fattys.
Sorry guys, but was an easy target. Now back to the EBA..
Grow up sunshine and go back to the good life in front of big brother and keep dreamin of your next sim or cut price meal at fattys.
Sorry guys, but was an easy target. Now back to the EBA..
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Super reply that silva!
Take your 3grand and run, screw the rest. Because I'm alright thanks Jack! Very selfish attitudes by the LHCC posters on this board re the EBA, and they even criticise their own SH mates at the same time. Because as we all know (and they'll be the first to tell you!), LHCC are gods gift to flight attendants worldwide. Yeah right!
LHCC: What's in it for me, me, me, me!!!!!!!! It's all about me!!!!
Take your 3grand and run, screw the rest. Because I'm alright thanks Jack! Very selfish attitudes by the LHCC posters on this board re the EBA, and they even criticise their own SH mates at the same time. Because as we all know (and they'll be the first to tell you!), LHCC are gods gift to flight attendants worldwide. Yeah right!
LHCC: What's in it for me, me, me, me!!!!!!!! It's all about me!!!!
