SIT Management Resources Shortfall

[wingers]

Well gents. like i said, if you dont like it, please faeel feree to leeaave

[domo]

ok enough bagging,
the reason they will not buy chairs is because after the sydney precident review they wont need many.
I read this in the 3rd cubical from the left in h131/g
its normally a good source

[lowerlobe]

wingers...Do you have a stutter or is it your spelling yet again?

[Managers Perspective]

Maybe we should give up our uniforms as well.

Not sure about the uniforms, but I would have a good hard look at the relevance of epaulettes.

MP.

[acslame]

Wingers , I am all for a modern workplace with modern work practices,
however management hasn't come up with one yet.
Its all very well to talk the talk, however all the change I have seen has taken productivity backwards.
Sure costs appear to have been cut , however all we have done is
increase the cost or caused inefficancies to other business units.
It just shows me that the current management ,despite their fast
talk really don't know the business.
So what is the only thing they can do ?
Attack their workforce.
Qf management NEVER ask for input from the people actually doing the job
and if they do then it is via some committee stacked with empire builders
and with a pre determined result.
All the worksafe / be safe BS has come because qf were threatened with loosing its self insurer status , not because it cared about its workforce.
Offshore maint is only a viable option because flight ops pay for the aircraft positioning costs and ACS foot the bill for all the hold items and
deffered work when the aircraft gets back to OZ.
Our workshops fell apart because they retrenched the foreman and productivity dropped dramatically and then they couldn't support the heavy checks. Instead of a foreman who knows the job these poor bastards
in the fitting shop/ sheetie shops have a "value stream leader" who can talk the talk with the boss but has absolutly no idea what is going on in the workplace.
So Winger and managers perspective,
I challenge you to tell us all how to fix the situation we are in because
with all your talk , I don't think you know!
And don't just sit there and blame the ALAEA . I have seen them offer qf some very good options regarding the customers, however our manager
couldn't see it because he didn't understand the business.
Remember to engauge the work force first you have to gain there respect.

[poacher2gamekeeper]

Back in Action under a new 'Nom de Guerre'

Hi Lads and Lassies,

First time back in a long time with you all. Switched sides in the meantime but I don't recall ever being so poorly treated by Charlie Q as you poor boys and girls.

Anyway, on to your problem with positioning the posterior in perpetuity.

Firstly, you will only have success when the number of seats you ask for is less than half the number of butts that can possibly fill them at any one time. The rest of you should be working.

Secondly, when you ask for the seats don't ask for ones that have a high comfort factor as you, in reality, should never be sitting in them for longer than 30 minutes anyway on any given shift.

Hope that helps.

P2G

P.S. I have from time to time read (and greatly enjoyed) these pages based on a simple adage contained in one Hanlon's Razor which states: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

[Hardworker]

Unbelieveable!

Well the SIT manager or should I say the Manager of Sydney Line Maintenance covering both sydney domestic and international line operations has announced that the "Chairs" are on order! Sad things is the time frame could be 6 to 8 months.....very hard to buy chairs (50) that are cheap...I understand he negotiated very toughly on the price to buy the crappiest cheaps chairs!
Still no one is complaining....once this intergration of international and domestic line operations goes ahead, we can get lots of chairs from the domestic terminal!

[Talkwrench]

Well gents. like i said, if you dont like it, please faeel feree to leeaave

Wingers said:"Well gents. like i said, if you dont like it, please faeel feree to leeaave"They are leaving, Wingers. At our hangar, its around 1 or 2 every month. LAMES and AMES. That number would be higher too, if people could get a fair shot at the internal vacancies that get advertised around the network. The rumour is that no one from our hangar will ever get an internal vacancy until the our staffing level reaches the required level.Do you think a reasonable person would see this as discriminatory or as an unreasonable restraint on ones career development?

[domo]

The rumour is that no one from our hangar will ever get an internal vacancy until the our staffing level reaches the required level.Do you think a reasonable person would see this as discriminatory or as an unreasonable restraint on ones career development?

Careers stoped in qantas in the 90's
you are a number with a job
maning levels are low in your area you will stay till numbers rise
maning levels are high in your area you will be retrenched
welcome to the real world

[woderwick]

Well gents. like i said, if you dont like it, please faeel feree to leeaave

You see, that's the thing. People don't want to leave because most of them think back to when things were all good. The days when management supported the efforts of the engineers, rather than trying to undermine them. The days when safety was number one, rather than secondary to the dollar. The days when we were given the resources to carry out our work, rather than told to make do with sub-standard equipment, broken equipment or inadequate equipment. The days when skilled aircraft maintenance engineers were actually paid well considering the training they went through and considering the responsibility they have to the flying public. Considering the fact that each time that plane flies, the work they have carried out must get a couple of hundred people up in the sky and keep them there without an accident.

That's right. Things have changed. They have changed for the worst. So, whingers, must we accept the downward spiral or leave? Must we must accept the change in attitude toward serviceability and safety of the aircraft or leave? We must accept the fact than whilst our once great employer is making record profits, we are expected to do more, with less, for less? Must we accept the fact that we are to be fed an endless torrent of drivel in the form of strategy maps, lean sigma, value streams which seem to be "in" this week and replaced by a new "latest and greatest" philosophy next week? What happened to the days when we were allowed to get on with our jobs? Get the plane serviceable to the highest standards? Where those who took the initiative to further their career were rewarded with a type course, let alone, a LAME position. Where those who came up with a solution to a problem were recognised, rather than having their idea stolen and promoted under the banner of lean sigma?

Yeah. you are right. Let's all take whingers advice. Let's all leave. Whinger, you can have your way. Bring in the "skilled" labour from overseas. Let's see who will be attracted to the pitiful wages that would prevail if such a scenario were to occur. Certainly not the "real talent" from Europe as stated by another poster. They will be too busy working where the money is. Too busy working where their talent is recognised and rewarded.

[splashman]

Feel free to leave, I did feel free and I did leave...there is good, well paid work around, both in OZ and oversea's.
Doubt if the majority of +10 years service LAME's at QF have the ball's...especially the over 30's ex apprentices who have never seen the real world, like a child to a mothers breast,
Believe me, a much better life. You are paid well, treated with respect, skills are recognised and thanked for, no company crap..Try it

[numbskull]

Hear, Hear Splashman,

I agree. There is plenty of well paid work available with employers that treat people much better than QF.

If they offer redundancy again I would strongly advise anyone that is sick of QF to leave. It won't take long for anyone to find a job in the current climate.


I left after 20 yrs as a LAME and wouldn't go back.