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Old 4th May 2007, 15:46
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Wow 65k for F/O pay?? Is this correct? I thought it was more? I was on 45k in GA 8 years ago, flying light twins. Surely 65k is base pay? If its true damn you guys should deserve more dammit...
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Old 5th May 2007, 00:57
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approx 65k was the initial proposed fo pay on the emb fleet, not including allowances etc - cant recall if it included retention bonus or not... That eba was however voted down, and a new proposal still being waited upon. Fo on the B737 is closer to 90k.
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Old 5th May 2007, 03:26
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737 F/o

DJ 737 F/O (after 500hrs) gets a base of approx 93k plus an annual "professional retention supplement" of around 9 or 10 (not exact numbers,but thats pretty close)..not many add-ons besides monthly allowances.
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Old 5th May 2007, 04:17
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with resignations, imminent retirements vs an expanding B737 fleet, new(untested in Australia) type fleet around the corner, a few new destinations, more services to schedule, very limited simulator time available for training & a disbelieving management about incorrrect pilot numbers & disengagement,,, the problem of crewing flights to a satisfactory level, I think will not be retified for a good 3 yrs. The company will be constantly running to catch up with the times. Pity.
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Old 5th May 2007, 05:02
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According to AFAP website, current VB Captain rate 129,900, F/O level 3 65% of this = 84.5K ?? plus retention bonus.
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Old 5th May 2007, 05:19
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The current VB Captain pay is $141K plus 15K retention. Just a nudge over $156K.
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Old 5th May 2007, 07:34
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Yes Cunning, in the 2002 EBA it would have been around 130K, plus 15K bonus.

That EBA is now nearly 2 years overdue!
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Old 5th May 2007, 09:17
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Actually there is an award out there that pays 737 crew a decent pay and even rewards them when they fly more hours. Convergence works both ways lads.

I'm sure you could get plenty of info on Qrewroom and you've got many QF drivers supporting your actions to get a better deal. If you don't stand up for a decent deal now when the numbers are tight imagine what it's going to be like when there is surplus crews in 3-5 years time!
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Old 5th May 2007, 09:41
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why then expect the F/O who has paid for his/her training their whole career expected/asked to work for only $14000 more than a CS.
I'd rather go and work for Jetstar and have better career progression/wages than V.B.
Let the market decide!
Sorry to say it but you guys are getting exactly what you paid for and there's been no shortage of people pointing this out to you.

Why start whinging now? Support VB so as to take a short-cut back when there are other options, and now feeling a little bum-****ed....

No sympathy here.

Twenty guys (or whatever) going to EK just helps a different bunch of penny-pinchers out of a crewing nightmare and isn't appreciated by their incumbents.
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